4PackGirl
16 years ago

It's McCarthy's fault the line is holding? Eh. I'm not going to list "excuses" but I don't agree.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



Not necessarily McCarthy. The position coach falls under coaching. And yes after 5 weeks of it, it should have been corrected. Unfortunately due to our health problems, benching the offenders may not be an option.

"evad04" wrote:



glad you said it, sam. we are a young team to start with THEN our young starters get injured & what do we get? even YOUNGER reserve players. to think that we're NOT gonna get penalized more often than before is just kinda silly. it's to be expected for at least a few games, IMO.
not saying our starters aren't making their share of mistakes either. just thought i better clarify that before i get trashed. 🙂
WhiskeySam
16 years ago

Same penalties every week on the O-line. That's poor coaching. Let the excuses begin. We hear the same thing during the post game conferences every week, but the problems don't get corrected. At least next week's game with the Seahawks looks winnable. We can't be worse than them.

"Bigbyfan" wrote:



I said the same thing about the Falcons.....

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



When I saw the schedule come out, I didn't think @Seattle was winnable, but they have looked like crap all season. We at least are competitive. Unless Seattle finds half a dozen new players on offense this week, there's no way we should lose to them.
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twebdonny
16 years ago

Same penalties every week on the O-line. That's poor coaching. Let the excuses begin. We hear the same thing during the post game conferences every week, but the problems don't get corrected. At least next week's game with the Seahawks looks winnable. We can't be worse than them.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



I said the same thing about the Falcons.....

"Bigbyfan" wrote:



When I saw the schedule come out, I didn't think @Seattle was winnable, but they have looked like crap all season. We at least are competitive. Unless Seattle finds half a dozen new players on offense this week, there's no way we should lose to them.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



Honestly, I don't see us as being competitive of late, but lucky, lucky we haven't lost by more points. Let's at least be real here.
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shield4life
16 years ago
We're not competitive cause teams dead in the hospital and we're not losing by more points because rodgers and wr's are putting up points and doing there jobs. On the other hand defense is just not getting it done
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WhiskeySam
16 years ago

Same penalties every week on the O-line. That's poor coaching. Let the excuses begin. We hear the same thing during the post game conferences every week, but the problems don't get corrected. At least next week's game with the Seahawks looks winnable. We can't be worse than them.

"twebdonny" wrote:



I said the same thing about the Falcons.....

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



When I saw the schedule come out, I didn't think @Seattle was winnable, but they have looked like crap all season. We at least are competitive. Unless Seattle finds half a dozen new players on offense this week, there's no way we should lose to them.

"Bigbyfan" wrote:



Honestly, I don't see us as being competitive of late, but lucky, lucky we haven't lost by more points. Let's at least be real here.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



I don't agree with that assessment. Both the Bucs and Falcons games were close games we were still in late in the 4th quarter. Seattle isn't playing anywhere close to that level. If we're worse than Seattle, you're talking about a 4-12 finish not 8-8 where most of us had them this year.
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twebdonny
16 years ago

Same penalties every week on the O-line. That's poor coaching. Let the excuses begin. We hear the same thing during the post game conferences every week, but the problems don't get corrected. At least next week's game with the Seahawks looks winnable. We can't be worse than them.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



I said the same thing about the Falcons.....

"twebdonny" wrote:



When I saw the schedule come out, I didn't think @Seattle was winnable, but they have looked like crap all season. We at least are competitive. Unless Seattle finds half a dozen new players on offense this week, there's no way we should lose to them.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



Honestly, I don't see us as being competitive of late, but lucky, lucky we haven't lost by more points. Let's at least be real here.

"Bigbyfan" wrote:



I don't agree with that assessment. Both the Bucs and Falcons games were close games we were still in late in the 4th quarter. Seattle isn't playing anywhere close to that level.

"WhiskeySam" wrote:



I'll stand by my statement that we are lucky we hadn't lost by more.

Now let's put this behind us and get this train back on the rails!
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all_about_da_packers
16 years ago
Let's not begin the wrist-slitting folks...

1. Jenkins and Bigby being out hurt us big time. We've got major issues stopping the run, and it's not just the D-Line. The DE's are struggling, the DTs are struggling with gap control, but our LBs don't seem to be as energetic in going into the running lanes as they were last year.

2. Barnett is not where he was last year. Last year, he attacked and got some big tackles for a loss. This year, he is hesitating, waiting for the RB to make his move so he can stay with the RB. That's really odd.

3. Blitzing... we blitzed a lot of times, and for our blitzers to not even force the QB to hurry is pathetic. Something about our blitzing needs to be done.

4. O-line. I'm shocked that Cliffy and Taush have struggled this badly this late into the season. Inexcusible for vets.
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all_about_da_packers
16 years ago

As you had mentioned zero in the chat, the missed field goal might come back to haunt us. Well it haunt us bad and will haunt me until I know for sure that we going make the playoffs.

"krazygangsta" wrote:




That holding call was BS. Totally blown by the officials.

Look at the replay, Finley didn't even touch anyone, let alone hold.
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twebdonny
16 years ago
🅱

Let's not begin the wrist-slitting folks...

1. Jenkins and Bigby being out hurt us big time. We've got major issues stopping the run, and it's not just the D-Line. The DE's are struggling, the DTs are struggling with gap control, but our LBs don't seem to be as energetic in going into the running lanes as they were last year.

2. Barnett is not where he was last year. Last year, he attacked and got some big tackles for a loss. This year, he is hesitating, waiting for the RB to make his move so he can stay with the RB. That's really odd.

3. Blitzing... we blitzed a lot of times, and for our blitzers to not even force the QB to hurry is pathetic. Something about our blitzing needs to be done.

4. O-line. I'm shocked that Cliffy and Taush have struggled this badly this late into the season. Inexcusible for vets.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:




Are you available for a coaching position...like tomorrow?
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all_about_da_packers
16 years ago

Who think it's time for KGB to take his spot back as a starter?

"krazygangsta" wrote:




HEAVENS NO!!! We suck against the run, and you want to put a player that has a weakness against the run at RE?

I'm thinking we should shift Cole to RE and see how he handles it. Montgomery was terrible.
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RaiderPride
16 years ago

Let's not begin the wrist-slitting folks...

1. Jenkins and Bigby being out hurt us big time. We've got major issues stopping the run, and it's not just the D-Line. The DE's are struggling, the DTs are struggling with gap control, but our LBs don't seem to be as energetic in going into the running lanes as they were last year.

2. Barnett is not where he was last year. Last year, he attacked and got some big tackles for a loss. This year, he is hesitating, waiting for the RB to make his move so he can stay with the RB. That's really odd.

3. Blitzing... we blitzed a lot of times, and for our blitzers to not even force the QB to hurry is pathetic. Something about our blitzing needs to be done.

4. O-line. I'm shocked that Cliffy and Taush have struggled this badly this late into the season. Inexcusible for vets.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



I agree AADP

But I still think they need Mike M to ream their asses out. Bobby Night Style.

http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Bobby_Knight.aspx 

That is what these guys need.
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16 years ago

Let's not begin the wrist-slitting folks...

1. Jenkins and Bigby being out hurt us big time. We've got major issues stopping the run, and it's not just the D-Line. The DE's are struggling, the DTs are struggling with gap control, but our LBs don't seem to be as energetic in going into the running lanes as they were last year.

2. Barnett is not where he was last year. Last year, he attacked and got some big tackles for a loss. This year, he is hesitating, waiting for the RB to make his move so he can stay with the RB. That's really odd.

3. Blitzing... we blitzed a lot of times, and for our blitzers to not even force the QB to hurry is pathetic. Something about our blitzing needs to be done.

4. O-line. I'm shocked that Cliffy and Taush have struggled this badly this late into the season. Inexcusible for vets.

"RaiderPride" wrote:



I agree AADP

But I still think they need Mike M to ream their asses out. Bobby Night Style.

http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Bobby_Knight.aspx 

That is what these guys need.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:


Beautiful. absolutely beautiful.
all_about_da_packers
16 years ago


I agree AADP

But I still think they need Mike M to ream their asses out. Bobby Night Style.

http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Bobby_Knight.aspx 

That is what these guys need.

"RaiderPride" wrote:



RP, call me new school or a softie but I don't think these guys need to be chewed out to get improvement. They have to realize they improve, or they can ride the pine for someone who will attempt to improve.

On this topic, am I alone in thinking McCarthy benched Clifton this game? I won't rule out Cliffy getting his hamstring injured, but I really do think that MM might of sent a message to Cliffy by sitting him on the bench when he could've gone back in.....

Maybe that's just wishful thinking though.
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millertime
16 years ago


4. O-line. I'm shocked that Cliffy and Taush and Wells and Spitz and Colledge have struggled this badly this late into the season. Inexcusible for vets.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



Wells, Spitz, and College have been in the league long enough now to be held accountable for their poor play. I don't miss Mike Sherman, but I sure miss his o-line.
all_about_da_packers
16 years ago


4. O-line. I'm shocked that Cliffy and Taush and Wells and Spitz and Colledge have struggled this badly this late into the season. Inexcusible for vets.

"millertime" wrote:



Wells, Spitz, and College have been in the league long enough now to be held accountable for their poor play. I don't miss Mike Sherman, but I sure miss his o-line.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



To be fair, I think Spitz was ok this game. Best of the bunch by far, I can't fault him.

Colledge started out decent, but last few games he has struggled. Same with Wells.

But you could usually depend on Cliffy, Taush, and Wells to do a solid job. The fact that they aren't, and we are in the 5th week of the season is surprising.

Colledge always seems to have his ups and down during the year, his inconsistent play isn't too surprising for me.
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16 years ago
I look at this game and quite frankly I think right now it's just a tough loss, but a few years down the road we might actually think about this game.

The way Rodgers played today was unbelievable. I was shocked, but he went out there and he proved his toughness. I think a lot of people questioned that with him and he shut them up at least for now. You could tell he was in pain, but he kept it going.

Now I say that down the road this could be a game we all look at because I think if Rodgers works out, this is the game that he earned respect. Maybe not from the pessimistic Packer fans, but from his teammates and from the realists out there. Rodgers deserves some respect.

Who would of thought that in the beginning of the year that if the Packers missed the playoffs, Aaron Rodgers wouln't be the reason why?

It's time to question the defense. A rookie QB threw all over them today and they gave up a lot of yardage on the ground again. This is an overrated defense in my opinion and it's starting to show.

Granted a lot of injuries might have a lot to do with it, but the guys who are filling in have actually stepped it up. It's the starters playing poorly. Ryan Pickett and Nick Barnett if I have to single out a few players. The defense and lack of toughness up front on the offensive line alone will cost this team the playoffs.

It's early enough to fix, but I'm not encouraged that it will get fixed.
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16 years ago

I look at this game and quite frankly I think right now it's just a tough loss, but a few years down the road we might actually think about this game.

The way Rodgers played today was unbelievable. I was shocked, but he went out there and he proved his toughness. I think a lot of people questioned that with him and he shut them up at least for now. You could tell he was in pain, but he kept it going.

Now I say that down the road this could be a game we all look at because I think if Rodgers works out, this is the game that he earned respect. Maybe not from the pessimistic Packer fans, but from his teammates and from the realists out there. Rodgers deserves some respect.

Who would of thought that in the beginning of the year that if the Packers missed the playoffs, Aaron Rodgers wouln't be the reason why?

It's time to question the defense. A rookie QB threw all over them today and they gave up a lot of yardage on the ground again. This is an overrated defense in my opinion and it's starting to show.

Granted a lot of injuries might have a lot to do with it, but the guys who are filling in have actually stepped it up. It's the starters playing poorly. Ryan Pickett and Nick Barnett if I have to single out a few players. The defense and lack of toughness up front on the offensive line alone will cost this team the playoffs.

It's early enough to fix, but I'm not encouraged that it will get fixed.

"porky88" wrote:



Excellent comments.

In watching the game again you can see that Rodgers truly gutted that one out and hell 300 yards and three TD's is NOT a bad game. The timing of that pick was horrendous! Not that theres a good time for a pick, but that late in the game... gosh. He also had a RB open in the flat that could have gotten some yard.
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TheEngineer
16 years ago
You know what, I feel sorry for Aaron Rodgers. He gave us his all today and the others let him down. Yeah I'm looking at you O-line!
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You know what, I feel sorry for Aaron Rodgers. He gave us his all today and the others let him down. Yeah I'm looking at you O-line!

"TheEngineer" wrote:



Dude seriously, I got massive respect for the man, more than I did 8 hours ago. Watching the game again and some of it in slow motion. The dude was in pain! And he still laid it out there on the line for us and still performed fairly well.
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RaiderPride
16 years ago

You know what, I feel sorry for Aaron Rodgers. He gave us his all today and the others let him down. Yeah I'm looking at you O-line!

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Dude seriously, I got massive respect for the man, more than I did 8 hours ago. Watching the game again and some of it in slow motion. The dude was in pain! And he still laid it out there on the line for us and still performed fairly well.

"TheEngineer" wrote:



Exactly Zero....

I had to pop 4 Advil, 2 Oxycontin, and rub my eyes with Tiger Balm just to watch Chico finish the game.

Massive Respect may be an under statement.
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