Peterson, greatest RB of all time?· Page 3

Wade
Veteran Member

14 years ago

I struggled with where to put OJ. I ran up against an intransitivity problem:

1. I like Gifford better than Tomlinson/Taylor/Kelly.
2. I like Tomlinson/Taylor/Kelly better than Simpson.
3. I like Simpson better than Gifford. (Aside: though they were about equal in the "bimbo wife with great legs" category.)

Go figure.

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

nathaniel
Registered

14 years ago

#22

Peterson has two major things going against him.

1. He looks for contact. He wants to run people over, and he takes hits for it. It could easily shorten his career.

2. Fumblitis.

Those are things he can improve on, but you would have expected to see some improvement this year. The kid is good, but not the greatest.

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Gravedigga
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14 years ago

#23

Have you all forgotten about Jim Brown?

Please never mention Emmitt Smith again! It is a sin he took Walters record!

"4PackGirl" wrote:

lol - sorry dingus - it just slipped out!!

"dingus" wrote:

Nice choice of words

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4PackGirl
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14 years ago

#24

Have you all forgotten about Jim Brown?

Please never mention Emmitt Smith again! It is a sin he took Walters record!

"Gravedigga" wrote:

lol - sorry dingus - it just slipped out!!

"4PackGirl" wrote:

Nice choice of words

"dingus" wrote:

:onfloor:

Gravedigga
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14 years ago

#25

How the hell is Emitt Smith not on that list?

"The_Green_Ninja" wrote:

Because you don't deserve credit when you play with 6 pro bowl o-lineman every year and Daryl Johnston. I mean, I coulda got 3.5 yards per carry behind that line, no fucking doubt in my mind. Well, at least until someone hit me in my knee then i'm down for the count haha.

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Gravedigga
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14 years ago

#26

I am not going to argue with Zero again on this one. :)

Below are ten I would put well above Peterson. And below I've highlighted all those currently in the Hall of Fame that I would put above him.

1A. Barry Sanders.
1B. Jim Brown.

3. Gale Sayers.

4. Walter Payton.

5. Erik Dickerson.

6. Earl Campbell.

7. Frank Gifford.

8. LaDanian Tomlinson.

9. Jim Taylor

10. Leroy Kelly.

Heck, if I were to go by the "fucked Packers over" category, AP wouldn't even be the top Viking RB on by list. He'd be third behind Chuck Foreman and Fran "I'm still as big an asshole as I was when I was a player" Tarkenton.

(And, just to prove, to quote Claude Rains, that I'm a rank sentimentalist, let me add the one from the top of my woulda/coulda/shoulda file, Eddie Lee Ivery.)

Hall of Famers by Position (from HoF website)

Running Backs and Quarterbacks
Pre-Modern Era: Running Backs and Quarterbacks (24)
Jimmy Conzelman (QB) # 1920-1929 Bill Dudley (HB) 1942, 1945-1951, 1953 Harold (Red) Grange (HB) 1925-1934 Earl (Curly) Lambeau (HB) # 1919-1929 Sid Luckman (QB) 1939-1950 John (Blood) McNally (HB) 1925-1938 Cliff Battles (HB) 1932-1937 Tony Canadeo (HB) 1941-1944, 1946-1952 Earl (Dutch) Clark (QB) 1931-1932, 1934-1938 John (Paddy) Driscoll (QB) 1920-1929 Joe Guyon (HB) 1919-1925, 1927 Arnie Herber (QB) 1930-1940, 1944-1945 Clarke Hinkle (FB) 1932-1941 Ernie Nevers (FB) 1926-1927, 1929-1931 Jim Thorpe (HB) 1915-1917, 1919-1926, 1928 Bronko Nagurski (FB) 1930-1937, 1943 Clarence (Ace) Parker (QB) 1937-141, 1945-1946 Fritz Pollard (HB) 1919-1926 Ken Strong (HB) 1929-1937, 1939, 1944-1947 Steve Van Buren (HB) 1944-1951 Sammy Baugh (QB) 1937-1952 Alphonse (Tuffy) Leemans (HB-FB) 1936-1943 George McAfee (HB) 1940-1941, 1945-1950 Benny Friedman 1927-1934
Modern Era: Halfbacks-Fullbacks (25)
Marcus Allen (RB) 1982-1997 Jim Brown (FB) 1957-1965 Earl Campbell (RB) 1978-1985 Larry Csonka (FB) 1968-1979 Eric Dickerson (RB) 1983-1993 Tony Dorsett (RB) 1977-1988 Frank Gifford (HB-FL) 1952-1960, 1962-1964 Franco Harris (RB) 1972-1984 Paul Hornung (HB) 1957-1962, 1964-1966 Leroy Kelly (RB) 1964-1973 Hugh McElhenny (HB) 1952-1964 Walter Payton (RB) 1975-1987 John Henry Johnson (FB) 1954-1966 Marion Motley (FB) 1946-1953, 1955 Charley Trippi (HB) 1947-1955 Doak Walker (HB) 1950-1955 O.J. Simpson (RB) 1969-1979Lenny Moore (HB) 1956-1967 John Riggins (RB) 1971-1979, 1981-1985 Gale Sayers (HB) 1965-1971 Thurman Thomas 1988-2000 Jim Taylor (FB) 1958-1967 Joe Perry (FB) 1948-1963 Ollie Matson (HB) 1952, 1954-1966 Barry Sanders (RB) 1989-1998

"Rockmolder" wrote:

How the hell is Emitt Smith not on that list?

"Wade" wrote:

No Jimmie Johnson era-cowgirls allowed?

"The_Green_Ninja" wrote:

What about O.J. Simpson? He has to be pushing for that nr. 6 spot, if you ask me.

If you ask me, Jerome Bettis could make a good push to get on that list, as well. He might not've had the great YPC numbers, always, but that has a lot to do with not having break out speed, more so than being a bad RB. If there's anyone who I would want to have running it up the middle, it'd be him. Or maybe Alstott.

And maybe Refrigerator Perry. Lol.

"Wade" wrote:

I would take Vince Workman before I would allow Fumbleson to touch the ball if I were the coach. Give me Travis Jervey before peterson.

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DakotaT
Select Member

14 years ago

#27

How the hell is Emitt Smith not on that list?

"Gravedigga" wrote:

"The_Green_Ninja" wrote:

So Peterson is expelled for running behind Hutch, McKinnie, and Birk for his first two years. Emmit Smith is on the list because #1, he is the all time leader in yardage, and #2 the guy play hurt quite a bit, sucked it up and did his job at a very high level for a long time. He was not as talented as the others, just more productive.

Wade
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#28

I'd definitely put Smith ahead of Peterson. But not in the top 10.

The guy that I had forgotten all about until I checked the Hall of Fame list, the one that absolutely no one knows about, I think has to be Leroy Kelly. People have heard of Sayers and Taylor and Brown and all the rest of the names post-1965 that come up in these discussion.

But when I saw the HOF list I said, "Oh, my God, how could I have forgotten him? He was a friggin' beast. People talk about AP's combination of speed, power; well, I remember watching Kelly...and AP at his best wasn't that good. And he had elusiveness almost in Sayers' league (though not in Sanders), with thighs the size of Earl Campbell's.

Kelly touched the ball 2000-odd times in his career, most as a runner back, but also receiving, returning both kicks and punts. He scored 90 TDs., one every 23rd time he touched the ball. In his regularity of hitting the end zone, he was Tomlinson level. Tomlinson has more TDs because he touched the ball more.

I think the problem was that Kelly came after Jim Brown, and so if you think of "great runner" and "Cleveland", you automatically think Brown and for good reason.

But if you ever have a chance to see footage of Kelly, check him out.

He'll bloody amaze you. He would have dominated today's league.

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

Formo
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#29

Heck, if I were to go by the "fucked Packers over" category, AP wouldn't even be the top Viking RB on by list. He'd be third behind Chuck Foreman and Fran "I'm still as big an asshole as I was when I was a player" Tarkenton.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

If we're talking Vikings, I'd say Robert Smith as well. I remember that dude retiring and me thinking 'oh thank goodness!'.

"Wade" wrote:

I remember being pissed off that he retired... Because he had gas in the tank, still. And the RB we had behind him? Leroy Hoard. lol

Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!

dingus
Member

14 years ago

#30

Loved Robert Smith & I hate the Vikings! Class act on a team full of jerks.

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