zombieslayer
15 years ago

Yes, every male is issued a fully automatic machine gun and 70 rounds (which he must keep locked separately) and he must demonstrate proficiency with the weapon yearly. There was a reason why Hitler never invaded Switzerland. It wasn't because that country was "neutral" -- it was because what with the armed citizenry, a complex system of tunnels, and mountainous terrain, it would have been suicide to invade. His vaunted Wehrmacht would have been slaughtered.

"Wade" wrote:



Not to mention it makes no sense to invade Switzerland when France is right there.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



+1.

We had a German intern years ago. I took him drinking one day and we talked about the usual stuff - work, politics, beer, chicks. Then, I thought I got him liquored up enough so very secretly, I asked him if he saw me as a friend. He said yes. Then I asked him if he trusted me to which he said yes. Then I said, "so, when are you planning on attacking France?"

He played dumb like they're all buddy buddy now. Yeah, whatever.

Damn. I thought we were friends.

A little German history for you non-history people - Germany becomes a nation in 1870. 1871 - they beat up the French. 1914 - they beat up the French. 1940 - they beat up the French. You know what they say about history? It's 2010. Long overdue.
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Cheesey
15 years ago
Who can BLAME them? The French are best known for the use of their "white flags".
Kind of the "nerd" that everyone likes to pick on.
Of course, WHO would the wussie French come running to IF they were attacked again??? Yup.......big bad AMERICA.
I say SCREW EM!
(Sorry for the rant)
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

Yes, every male is issued a fully automatic machine gun and 70 rounds (which he must keep locked separately) and he must demonstrate proficiency with the weapon yearly. There was a reason why Hitler never invaded Switzerland. It wasn't because that country was "neutral" -- it was because what with the armed citizenry, a complex system of tunnels, and mountainous terrain, it would have been suicide to invade. His vaunted Wehrmacht would have been slaughtered.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Not to mention it makes no sense to invade Switzerland when France is right there.

"Wade" wrote:



+1.

We had a German intern years ago. I took him drinking one day and we talked about the usual stuff - work, politics, beer, chicks. Then, I thought I got him liquored up enough so very secretly, I asked him if he saw me as a friend. He said yes. Then I asked him if he trusted me to which he said yes. Then I said, "so, when are you planning on attacking France?"

He played dumb like they're all buddy buddy now. Yeah, whatever.

Damn. I thought we were friends.

A little German history for you non-history people - Germany becomes a nation in 1870. 1871 - they beat up the French. 1914 - they beat up the French. 1940 - they beat up the French. You know what they say about history? It's 2010. Long overdue.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Germany got their asses handed to them royally by the French, as well, from time to time. Although a lot of that came before they where actually known as Germany.

Fricken' Wilhelm and Bismarck and their unification.

How are these numbers calculated, btw? The money that goes right from government to government? Does it include donations to Docters Without Borders etc. as well? We had a benefit thingy the day before HFHN aired. They gathered 41,5 million Euros. That got doubled by the government, so 83 million Euros should be going to Hati, right? Does that get accounted to the Netherlands?

Not that it matters in the end. What I did notice is that the Italian minister doesn't actually attack your economic input. He's just bringing up the same points which Foster made quite a few days ago and which we applauded him for.

Or I'm just not getting it, of course.
zombieslayer
15 years ago

Who can BLAME them? The French are best known for the use of their "white flags".
Kind of the "nerd" that everyone likes to pick on.
Of course, WHO would the wussie French come running to IF they were attacked again??? Yup.......big bad AMERICA.
I say SCREW EM!
(Sorry for the rant)

"Cheesey" wrote:



Well, to be fair, France paid for our revolutionary war. Sure, with an ulterior motive to screw over England. But still. I say we're now pretty much even.

Now other people when they call for our help, I say screw them as other countries haven't really helped us historically. I'd pull out of pretty much everywhere and the next time a war happens, we should let them kill each other.
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zombieslayer
15 years ago



Germany got their asses handed to them royally by the French, as well, from time to time. Although a lot of that came before they where actually known as Germany.

Fricken' Wilhelm and Bismarck and their unification.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Yeah, but that was before Germany was a country. It would be equivalent to Mexico bragging that they defeated the United States because they won some battles against Texas before Texas became part of the USA.
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Porforis
15 years ago

Yes, every male is issued a fully automatic machine gun and 70 rounds (which he must keep locked separately) and he must demonstrate proficiency with the weapon yearly. There was a reason why Hitler never invaded Switzerland. It wasn't because that country was "neutral" -- it was because what with the armed citizenry, a complex system of tunnels, and mountainous terrain, it would have been suicide to invade. His vaunted Wehrmacht would have been slaughtered.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Not to mention it makes no sense to invade Switzerland when France is right there.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



+1.

We had a German intern years ago. I took him drinking one day and we talked about the usual stuff - work, politics, beer, chicks. Then, I thought I got him liquored up enough so very secretly, I asked him if he saw me as a friend. He said yes. Then I asked him if he trusted me to which he said yes. Then I said, "so, when are you planning on attacking France?"

He played dumb like they're all buddy buddy now. Yeah, whatever.

Damn. I thought we were friends.

A little German history for you non-history people - Germany becomes a nation in 1870. 1871 - they beat up the French. 1914 - they beat up the French. 1940 - they beat up the French. You know what they say about history? It's 2010. Long overdue.

"Wade" wrote:



Germany got their asses handed to them royally by the French, as well, from time to time. Although a lot of that came before they where actually known as Germany.

Fricken' Wilhelm and Bismarck and their unification.

How are these numbers calculated, btw? The money that goes right from government to government? Does it include donations to Docters Without Borders etc. as well? We had a benefit thingy the day before HFHN aired. They gathered 41,5 million Euros. That got doubled by the government, so 83 million Euros should be going to Hati, right? Does that get accounted to the Netherlands?

Not that it matters in the end. What I did notice is that the Italian minister doesn't actually attack your economic input. He's just bringing up the same points which Foster made quite a few days ago and which we applauded him for.

Or I'm just not getting it, of course.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



I was no part of that conversation, what I'm ranting about is armchair quarterbacking. If you can lead things better, lead. Don't yell at someone else to "lead" better.

Bertolaso also struck out at aid groups sending millions in relief and hundreds of volunteers to help the struggling island. He said the forces helping Haiti were often more focused on public relations than providing assistance.

"Once they've arrived on the scene of a disaster, organizations too often think about putting up a big poster with their symbol on it, to look good in front of cameras, rather than getting to work to bring aid to those who need it," he said.



Maybe I'm missing something too, but this man seriously needs to stop his bitching until he does something to help. I fail to see what any of these aid companies are doing wrong. I hear bitching from people about flights with being turned away... Where the hell are they supposed to land? What else are these aid companies doing wrong?

I'm not going to read an entire thread. Can you summarize Foster's point for me?
Rockmolder
15 years ago
I wouldn't want to read the entire thread, either, but just look up the 3 posts by Foster. It's not too much to read and it pretty much states it all. This one isn't again any country as much as it is against the overall help given right now, btw.

http://packershome.com/index.php?name=ForumsPro&file=viewtopic&t=7984 

The French get out as bad guys there, as well. Gotta love them. Lol.
vegOmatic
15 years ago
Katrina was Dubya's fault but Obama gets a free pass for being incompetent.
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dfosterf
15 years ago
I read his shit. (Guido's)

As Porforis stated...

It's armchair quarterbacking.

We (the US) is busting their hump trying to unscrew that place.

My armchair quarterbacking is for consumption here amongst friends, and it was in "real time" with people dying as I was typing...Not to make any political hay, and I do know a quite a bit about logistics and such, so was merely venting in a (big scheme of things) private way.

I (and the rest of my countrymen/women) don't need some Italian asswipe telling us shit about what we are doing/not doing there. I will admit that he had some extremely valid points, but I just don't want/need to hear it from him.

Go tear down some Vota Communista posters in Naples and then come talk to me asshole.

...And the French can blow me also, but you already knew that.

:tongue3:
Formo
15 years ago
Like I always say..

If you can't say something nice about a second-rate European nation that would have been wiped off the face of the earth twice in the last century if it wasn't for the U.S., and has brought nothing of value to this culture but wine and cheese ... both of which are made better in California ... then don't say anything at all.
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