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Offline wpr  
#31 Posted : Tuesday, November 13, 2012 5:25:41 PM(UTC)
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You forgot your sarcasm smiley! Big Grin


no I did not. You and all your government dependent friends have convinced me. I was wrong to fight the inevitable for so long. It is what the people want so give it to them.
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#32 Posted : Tuesday, November 13, 2012 5:53:52 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
no I did not. You and all your government dependent friends have convinced me. I was wrong to fight the inevitable for so long. It is what the people want so give it to them.


It has to work better than trickle down economics.
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#33 Posted : Tuesday, November 13, 2012 6:35:20 PM(UTC)
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Primary requirement: Only spend on activities for which the government actor has a comparative advantage (i.e. can do it better, at a lower opportunity cost, than any market actor could).

First example: Various "security" and "war" services: Marines, Army, Navy, Air Force combat personnel. Coast Guard search and rescue. The uniformed beat cop. Fire departments. Criminal court. Border control to prevent entry of criminals and infectious diseases.

Does not include such things such as REMF functions, police detectives, or anyone or any function provided bye the so-called "Department of Homeland Security". Does not include enforcers of "limit immigration" laws.


I primarily agree, but differ slightly. Government should only supply what private sector cannot, like a national military, interstate system. And much of that, federal government should be more of a coordinator of the states instead of provider. Everything else should be provided by the private sector, cost is never really an issue. There is no reason government can do anything cheaper, and even if there was, even if more expensive, it would be generating revenue and expand the tax base.
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#34 Posted : Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:11:05 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
no I did not. You and all your government dependent friends have convinced me. I was wrong to fight the inevitable for so long. It is what the people want so give it to them.


I don't have any government dependent friends. All my friends are just like you momolucs. And like all of you, none of them have had a life altering crisis with their child that have made them re-evaluate everything. Needing all the toys and bells and whistles is just not important anymore - and voting for the assholes that make sure a small percentage of our country has all those things is not something I'm on board with anymore - but I once was.

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#35 Posted : Wednesday, November 14, 2012 6:05:06 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
I don't have any government dependent friends. All my friends are just like you momolucs. And like all of you, none of them have had a life altering crisis with their child that have made them re-evaluate everything. Needing all the toys and bells and whistles is just not important anymore - and voting for the assholes that make sure a small percentage of our country has all those things is not something I'm on board with anymore - but I once was.



agreed. I could care less about the crap people collect. If I had my way we would all live without 3/4 of the stuff we have. and be far better off for it.
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#36 Posted : Wednesday, November 14, 2012 7:19:58 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
And like all of you, none of them have had a life altering crisis with their child that have made them re-evaluate everything.


One of the more pretentious generalizations an ignorant soul could claim. Shut your fucking mouth. You're not only one who's had a difficult life. You're not the only one who's had to endure a crisis with their child or family member, quit putting yourself on a pedestal. I wouldn't wish what you had to endure on anyone, ever, but pushing others down because of it is wrong, very wrong. Don't be that guy, be better. --edit, that's unnecessarily harsh. What I'm saying is, quit this attitude that you're the only one who's had it rough, man. What you've been through, was treacherous hell, it has galvanized you and you rose up to the challenge. That's very big of you and I'd be proud to know you in person because of it.



In regards to the toys, bells an whistles that everyone seems to 'need' is mind boggling. I see people buying four wheelers, boats, excessively large truck and what have you then complain about not having money. I've never really understood that. I have a few things that I splurge on, like a phone that I can handle all my work needs and a laptop that I can pursue my goal of starting an running my own business and a TV that plays movies in great quality. Other than that, I'm very average. I get pissed spending more than $15 on a pair of my jeans, or more than $10 on a t-shirt. When it comes to my girls, that's where a great deal of my money goes towards. I also help out my family quite a bit too.

I will have to confess, my dream is to one day own a Lamborghini Diablo, but I've conceded that since I didn't keep my little pecker wrapped tight enough that I'll let that dream slip lol


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#37 Posted : Wednesday, November 14, 2012 12:41:55 PM(UTC)
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I don't have any government dependent friends.


Interesting. I can think of 30-40 people I know who are government dependents. A great many of them are friends. Some closer some not as close (in friendship.)
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#38 Posted : Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:40:21 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
agreed. I could care less about the crap people collect. If I had my way we would all live without 3/4 of the stuff we have. and be far better off for it.


Hey, I happen to like collecting poker chips and fountain pens. So there. Big Grin

None of the above. It wouldn't have been a wasted vote. Obama and Romney -- Those were the wasted votes.
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#39 Posted : Wednesday, November 14, 2012 6:01:05 PM(UTC)
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Hey, I happen to like collecting poker chips and fountain pens. So there. Big Grin


You're a true polymath Wade. Big Grin

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#40 Posted : Wednesday, November 14, 2012 6:29:05 PM(UTC)
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Hey, I happen to like collecting poker chips and fountain pens. So there. Big Grin



and you can. I just don't care if you do or don't. so there. Big Grin
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