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Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 7:50:17 AM(UTC)
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I always find it interesting to learn where a team came from.

Atlanta Braves (1966–present)
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Basically, the Atlanta Braves were the original Red Sox?


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#2 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:05:43 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
I always find it interesting to learn where a team came from.

Atlanta Braves (1966–present)
Milwaukee Braves (1953 - 1965)
Boston Braves (1941 - 1952)
Boston Bees (1936 - 1940)
Boston Braves (1912 - 1935)
Boston Rustlers (1911)
Boston Doves (1907 - 1910)
Boston Beaneaters (1883 - 1906)
Boston Red Stockings (1871 - 1882)

Basically, the Atlanta Braves were the original Red Sox?


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Yes. Several of the American League teams took discarded NL names to have a air of legitimacy when they stated up in 1901. (or a few years later.)
I think the Chicago White Sox did. St Louis Browns. Probably a few others but I don't remember.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:15:49 AM(UTC)
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Interesting, I didn't know it was done to have legitimacy.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:30:10 AM(UTC)
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I'm old enough to remember when God damned Atlanta STOLE our Braves - and I've hated the Atlanta Braves ever since - which was kinda hard to do when they still had Eddie Matthews and Henry (not Hank) Aaron.

I also remember when we STOLE the Pilots from Seattle - justice after getting the Braves stolen from us.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, November 7, 2013 2:08:11 PM(UTC)
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Just to add something by way of coincidence...in the 1890's, Boston was the power house of the National League, under the direction of a manager named Frank Selee. After the Cubs fell on hard times around the turn of the century, they brought him in from Boston to build a winner on the north side, and he obliged by assembling the famous Tinker to Evers to Chance DP combo as well as bringing in 3 Finger Brown. (He was ill and was no longer manager by the time they won 4 pennants in 5 years, but it was his team).

Interesting that once again the Cubs have turned from a guy who rebuilt a Boston team to try to restore their fortunes.

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#6 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 10:29:12 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
Yes. Several of the American League teams took discarded NL names to have a air of legitimacy when they stated up in 1901. (or a few years later.)
I think the Chicago White Sox did. St Louis Browns. Probably a few others but I don't remember.


St. Louis Browns were originally the Milwaukee Brewers weren't they?

I also read that the Cardinals were very close to moving to Milwaukee in the early 50's but the owner accepted a lesser off from the Busch family to keep them in St. Louis.

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:05:07 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: sschind Go to Quoted Post
St. Louis Browns were originally the Milwaukee Brewers weren't they?

I also read that the Cardinals were very close to moving to Milwaukee in the early 50's but the owner accepted a lesser off from the Busch family to keep them in St. Louis.



Very GOOD! The Brewers were in the Western League. It was considered the minor leagues by most people. Ban Johnson came in and became commissioner and convinced the owners that they could compete with the NL as a major league organization. It took a few years to get set up but when they proclaimed they were a major league organization too very little was attention was paid to them. In the past (as the Western League) they had raided the NL for some of the players and they got a bidding war going between the leagues.

When the changed their name to the American League Ban wanted his teams to be in the same cities as the NL teams as much as possible. That is why St Louis, Philly, Chicago, NYC and Boston had 2 teams. Well NY 3 teams.

As far as StL moving it was kind of like the ChiSox ploy a few years ago when they threaten to move everywhere including Tampa- St Pete. If they were pushed they would have moved but they really didn't want to move. They knew they had a very good fan base even back then. The dominated Texas, Ark, Georgia, Oklahoma. Split Iowa, Ind, KY and TN with other teams.

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