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Per PFF:
Preston Smith: 230 pass-rush snaps, 15 pressures, two sacks
Rashan Gary: 171 pass-rush snaps, 22 pressures, three sacks

Looks like that Gary guys might be better than that Preston guy.

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The kid is playing decent, but I expected more and sooner. Nevertheless, he is getting better, which is something I can't think I can say for any other member of the defense. (In fairness to Alexander, he is terrific already...although not as great as he thinks)

BTW, on most pass rushes GARY is being doubled vs either Smith, which says something.

I am very disappointed with the defense, particularly the passivity of play-calling and coverage. I think our 'horses" are better than they have shown.

Minnesota is playing with their 4 and 5 best corners and they still play better pass defense than we do...it is inexcusable.
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From what I've seen, OTs use his speed against him by pushing him downfield since he doesnt have enough bend to get around them. He seems to be doing better using his strength to go directly to the QB. I think if he can develop some outside-inside rush moves he could be near unblockable in pass rush situations.
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Originally Posted by: KRK 

Minnesota is playing with their 4 and 5 best corners and they still play better pass defense than we do...it is inexcusable.

I know, I'm confused, how the hell does Mike Zimmer always seem to maximize his guys?

I understand how he's used the Safeties to help the CBs, but how did he at the same time, get the DL to play better, with less Safety help and trading away a star player?

The Packers are screwed because our defense NEEDS another good DT, and so far, no one is stepping up. And we got Clark back from injury, but he hasn't played at the same level, I don't know if that's injuries or the new pay day or what's going on... also, he's the best NT in the game, being often used at 3 tech, because we don't have a decent 3 tech option beside him, and it's easier to fill the NT role.

Some are suggesting JJ Watt is going to be forcing his way out, as they're going to rebuild, and he doesn't have many years left... and wants to win. We can't afford his cap (hell we need to cut like $20 in cap already), but if he's willing to come cheap, we freaking need him, or a stud DT somewhere.

Also, just watching other teams DBs, they get more shots at INTs some how than ours seem to.

We also need CB badly, especially if we don't resign King.
Rashan Gary was a 1st round draft pick ! 1st Round !

A 1st round draft pick should be a plug/play instant impact player, not a 2+ year ongoing project. He should have walked into TC in 2019 at the level he is currently in 2020. He is still not a starter, but a situation player. He may be as strong as Hercules, but if is not a good "football player" he is just eating up cap space.

Yes I read the supporting statics posted, yet I'm not impressed. He might have some trade value, but is Gutekunst that good of a salesman? Addressing defensive player weaknesses should be GB's focus moving forward.
Originally Posted by: Smokey 

was a 1st round draft pick ! 1st Round !

A 1st round draft pick should be a plug/play instant impact player, not a 2+ year ongoing project.

Yes Aaron Rodgers was such a fucking wasted selection, he's absolutely prove of failure because he clearly wasn't ready to start in his first couple of years.

Rodgers is reflexion of the Packers failures and how Smokey knows better than the Packers ...
I think that it was KRK who brought it up in the chat. I just noticed how well Gary is as opposed to the Smiths at setting the edge. Unfortunately a well set edge relies on tackling which our team has been less than stellar.
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Originally Posted by: Smokey 

A 1st round draft pick should be a plug/play instant impact player, not a 2+ year ongoing project.

Especially at No 12 overall. They have to produce immediately.

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