Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago

Don Banks>INSIDE THE NFL
Super Bowl in the New York area all but a cold, hard reality for NFL
 

Now that the idea of an outdoor Super Bowl played in the chill of early February is just days shy of making the leap from concept to, uh, cold, hard reality, it's time to take a look at what the 2014 game in the New York area might hold in store, from as many perspectives as we can conjure up.
I'll admit, when I first heard the idea of the NFL playing a Super Bowl outdoors at the Meadowlands, my gut reaction was something along the lines of "You can't be serious.'' But in time, playing the league's biggest game in the winter elements is an idea a lot of people seemingly have started to warm up to. We'll find out exactly how many of the people who count the most are in favor of it at the NFL's one-day owners meeting on May 25 in Dallas, when the vote to award the game to New York, Tampa or South Florida is scheduled to be taken.

But the way I read the tea leaves, it'll require a Giants over Patriots-like upset to keep the NFL's 48th Super Bowl from unfolding beneath the frigid night skies of a New Jersey winter in the nation's largest metropolitan area. So let's all just bundle up and deal with it, shall we? We have a little less than three years and nine months to figure out what to wear and how to layer correctly.

What's in it for the NFL?

The theme chosen by the folks putting together the new Meadowlands Stadium Super Bowl bid is a savvy one indeed. They're going with the evocative "Make Some History'' catch phrase, and that's called playing your strongest hand.

Let's face it, everyone has at least a little drive to be part of something historic, and history undoubtedly will be made when the NFL, for the first time, circumvents its requirement that Super Bowls must be played in regions where the minimum average temperature is 50 degrees for that time of year, or in roofed stadiums.

Some of the most memorable postseason games in NFL history have largely been about the weather conditions that prevailed on game day -- think the Ice Bowl in Green Bay, the Tuck Rule game in Foxboro, or that frosty 2007 NFC title game affair at Lambeau Field. Fans who braved those elements and survived wear it like a medal won on the field of battle.

When you tell people they can be part of something that has never happened before, the rarity factor adds an exponential allure and attraction all its own. I'm not suggesting the league is holding the Super Bowl in New York in an effort to boost ticket sales, because I'm fairly sure the folks in NFL headquarters are confident of a full house, short of a game-day tsunami. But in terms of creating hype and never-before-reached levels of pre-game buzz, which is something the Super Bowl pretty much invented, this Roman numeraled affair might just set the bar higher than ever.
That's a win-win for the NFL in terms of TV ratings, media coverage, and the stop-what-you're-doing-and-pay-attention factor that the league thrives on. Turning the potential negative of the weather into a positive by highlighting the uniqueness of the event is both masterful and straight out of Marketing 101.

If you're wondering if one cold-weather Super Bowl opens the door to Green Bay, Chicago and New England being added to the Super Bowl rotation going forward, just slow down and unbutton your parka for now. The league made an exception for New York this time, largely because it has a new $1.6 billion stadium to showcase, and it fits commissioner Roger Goodell's focus on trying to adopt a few new innovations for the league. The Super Bowl city's minimum temperature/roof requirement was set aside on a onetime basis only, for New York.

In the past, Washington has made it known it would like a Super Bowl, too, but the overwhelming odds are that the NFL will see how the game works out in New York before it even considers another cold-weather outdoor site. Given the three- or four-year lag time between a game being awarded and being played, we're probably at least seven or eight years away from another cold-weather Super Bowl being scheduled -- if it ever happens at all.

What's in it for the fans?

Start spreading the news ... it's gonna be cold. And there's no way around it. Providing fans with self-warming seat cushions, hand warmers, blankets and giant heaters in the stadium concourses will help, but if you're trying to sell the novelty and charm of a cold-weather Super Bowl to begin with, you can't exactly make extending the scope of creature comforts your first priority.

Fire pits in the parking lots for tailgaters is another nice touch that's planned by the host committee. But it's not really the hard-core football fans at the Super Bowl the league is worried about, since roughly half of the league's 32 teams play outdoors in some cold conditions for a good bit of the season and have fans who know how to stay warm. Rather, it's the fat-cat, big-money corporate element that has made the Super Bowl its own private event in the past two decades, and how it reacts to sitting in the elements for four or five hours?

I would imagine the scramble for the stadium's 10,000 or so club seats is going to be a furious competition in and of itself before Super Bowl Sunday, because if you have to be at the game but still want shelter from the cold, the club level is the best of both worlds. I can't wait to take a head count on game day of how many NFL team owners who voted to award the Super Bowl to New York never leave their amenity-filled suite that night. Do I see ... none?

Who knows, maybe one silver lining of a New York Super Bowl will be a couple dozen fewer stretch limos in the parking lot, and not quite so many corporate jets landing on the morning of the game at Teterboro. Maybe a few thousand more year-round football fans will actually get tickets this time around, what with the jet-set crowd scaled back by the daunting prospects of waiting in line for hot chocolate at concession stands.

My sense is fans will buy into the old-school nature of a cold-weather Super Bowl, if anything that has never been done before can even be called "old school.'' There will be a communal shared experience aspect to it, and people will try almost anything once just to see what it's like, no matter how ridiculous it sounds (Dennis Miller on Monday Night Football, for example).

But the bottom line is the only thing that will make a New York Super Bowl truly special is if the game itself is truly special. Jets-Giants go to overtime in a snowstorm? Probably too much to ask for. But if it's Bears-Ravens in a tight, back-and-forth contest, with just enough weather to know you're outside in the North in February, we'll no doubt have an instant classic on our hands.

That's when you'll have the proverbial 200,000 people telling their grand kids that they were one of the lucky 82,500 there that day to see the game (and their breath at the same time). Everyone will agree it was a swell idea whose time had come, and the NFL will quietly start investigating the idea of a Super Bowl in Iceland.

What's in it for the players?

Well, they do award rings and some playoff money to the winner of this game, so there's that. But beyond those goodies, which get handed out every year, the players with a sense of NFL history will likely love being part of the historic nature of the game. The reward of getting to the Super Bowl isn't about earning the right to a warm-weather game, it's about stamping your name on something that stands the test of time. And this game has a chance to be a one-of-a-kind type event.

True, players have come to expect to compete in the absolute optimum conditions in a Super Bowl, but it wasn't always that way and a champion still got crowned. Check out those old NFL Films highlight reels of Super Bowl IV in New Orleans, where the field at Tulane Stadium looked like a muddy, rut-filled mess, or Super Bowl IX in New Orleans, played on an overcast, wind-swept day that was anything but balmy.

And I like what Giants quarterback Eli Manning said in helping pitch the New York Super Bowl bid this week. Manning has a soft spot in his heart for New York's thrilling overtime win at Green Bay in January 2008, a game played in such bitter conditions that Tom Coughlin's face nearly froze and fell off.

"Some of my friends still talk about that game more than the Super Bowl,'' Manning said. "It's one of my all-time favorite games, being in Green Bay, in negative-20-degree weather. If the NFC Championship Game can be played anywhere, why can't the Super Bowl be played in a cold-weather atmosphere?''

Why indeed? What's one more game in the cold for a player staring at the chance to hoist a Lombardi Trophy? The year the Giants won their latest Super Bowl, they prevailed in the playoffs in three different time zones, and dealt with the heat of Tampa, the chill of Dallas and the bone-numbing cold of Green Bay, before upsetting New England in the climate-controlled air of the University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale, Ariz. Whatever. Wherever.

In truth, it might be cold, but far from some historic freeze come game day. According to New York's Super Bowl committee, the average high temperature for the area in early February is 40 degrees, with a low of 24.1, and about 2.7 inches of precipitation. Sure, an ill-timed Nor'easter could come along and make everyone's Super Bowl Sunday a bit more tricky, but at least we'll have a good story to tell.

I'll grant you that giving some still-to-be-determined unfortunate Super Bowl-winning head coach a Gatorade shower late on Super Bowl Sunday night could be complicated by cold weather, but basking in the glow of victory -- and maybe a shorter post-game trophy presentation -- should help offset those concerns. I can think of about 32 current NFL head coaches who would love to grapple with that particular problem on a chilly February night in New York in another 45 months or so.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/don_banks/05/14/nyc.super.bowl/index.html#ixzz0oE28VmiB 



I say take it one step farther and award the Super Bowl yearly the same way they award the conference championships. And please don't give me this nonsense that it would be logistically unfeasible because people would need time to plan and make travel arrangements. As far as I know, the NFL is the only professional sports league that doesn't play its championship game on the field of the teams in the championship. Now I understand that other leagues play championship series, so both teams get games on their home field, and it's unfortunate that that wouldn't be possible in the NFL (unless the league went to, say, a best-of-three championship), but it only proves my point that the fans who want to be there find a way to be there.

I think the suspense of finding out who gets to host the Super Bowl should be part of the fun. Why shouldn't there be home-field advantage in the championship? If teams don't want to play in the cold, then they should play well enough to host the game in the south.
UserPostedImage
Wade
  • Wade
  • Veteran Member
14 years ago
My thoughts were:
1. If I were a corporate type, I wouldnt be particularly interested in setting up a "major event" at the Meadowlands in late January/early February.
2. I'm a fan of "playing outdoors in the cold." But, to be perfectly honest, I never think of the Meadowlands when I think of "playing outdoors in the cold. Green Bay. Chicago. Old Metropolitan Stadium. Pittsburgh. Maybe Buffalo. But NY? Give me a break.
3. And if I'm playing $1000 bucks to watch a game, I sure as hell can't imagine sitting in the cold unless I'm a serious fan of one of the two teams. IMO its a disaster waiting to happen unless both teams playing are cold-weather/outdoors teams.
4. I can't see the NFL reducing the ticket prices for "Joe Serious Fan". If you want to sell out a Super Bowl stadium at $1000 a pop (and whatever hotels in NYC cost these days on top of it), you ain't selling to Joe Serious Fan.
5. Frankly this strikes me as nothing more than a PR move by corporate suits to gain political brownie points. And I hope the NFL falls flat on its ass. I hope they get a 10 turnover, 15 penalty game between a Browns offense and a Rams defense.
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (6h) : WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling to Bills
Zero2Cool (7h) : Jets and Aaron Rodgers open up on Monday Night Football,
Zero2Cool (22h) : $170 guaranteed. This might impact Jordan Love
Zero2Cool (22h) : Lions are signing QB Jared Goff to a four-year, $212 million extension
Zero2Cool (13-May) : I know we moved on. That tidbit just makes me a touch happier.
Zero2Cool (13-May) : Sources spoke of many, many times last summer where Hackett called a play, then Rodgers changed it completely at the line
Martha Careful (10-May) : 1. this is true of all our linemen. 2. His run block is fine. 3. If all OL played like he has, we would win SB.
beast (10-May) : Meyers pass blocking is really good, his run blocking is really not.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : Packers have claimed DE Spencer Waege off of waivers from the 49ers and waived DT Rodney Mathews.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : And the OL protections seem to be good.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : I really don't know lol. I don't see him getting blown up.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : -3 buwahhhahaaha
Mucky Tundra (9-May) : 4th
Zero2Cool (9-May) : because he's 1st
Mucky Tundra (9-May) : Myers isn't even the 3rd best C on the roster atm
Martha Careful (9-May) : I am not sure I understand the Myers hate. He was consistently our third best lineman. RG and LT were worse.
beast (9-May) : Just saying I don't think moving Myers would help Myers.
beast (9-May) : Center is usually considered the easiest position physically if you can handle the snap stuff.
Mucky Tundra (8-May) : Bust it is then
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Context. Sounds like Myers won't be cross-trained. C or bust.
Mucky Tundra (8-May) : @BookOfEli_NFL Packers pass game coordinator, Jason Vrable said that Jayden Reed and Dontayvion Wicks shared a placed in Florida while train
Mucky Tundra (8-May) : For now...
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers go about evaluating their "best five," OL coach Luke Butkus makes on thing clear: "Josh Myers is our center."
beast (8-May) : Though I'm a bit surprised letting go of CBs, I thought we needed more not less
beast (8-May) : It was confusing with two DB Anthony Johnson anyways
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers actually had Ray Lewis on the phone.
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers wanted to draft Ray Lewis. Ravens stole him.
Martha Careful (6-May) : Happy 93rd Birthday to the Greatest Baseball Player of All-Time...Willie Mays
Zero2Cool (6-May) : Walter Stanely's son
buckeyepackfan (6-May) : and released CB Anthony Johnson and DL Deandre Johnson and waived/injured WR Thyrick Pitts (thigh-rick).
buckeyepackfan (6-May) : The Green Bay Packers have signed WR Julian Hicks, OL Lecitus Smith (luh-SEET-us) and WR Dimitri Stanley
Zero2Cool (6-May) : Petty, but it's annoying me how the NFL is making the schedule release an event.
Mucky Tundra (4-May) : @mattschneidman Matt LaFleur on how he tore his pec: “Got in a fight with the bench press. I lost.”
Zero2Cool (3-May) : Jordan Love CAN sign an extension as of today. Might tak weeks/months though
TheKanataThrilla (3-May) : Packers decline 5th year option for Stokes
Mucky Tundra (3-May) : @ProFootballTalk Jaylen Warren: Steelers' special teams coach has discussed Justin Fields returning kicks.
Zero2Cool (2-May) : Season officially ending tonight for Bucks ... sad face
Zero2Cool (2-May) : Giannis Antetokounmpo is listed as out for tonight's game.
dfosterf (2-May) : Surprisingly low initially is my guess cap wise, but gonna pay the piper after that
dfosterf (2-May) : The number on Love is going to be brutal.
Zero2Cool (2-May) : May 3rd. Extension day for Jordan Love. (soonest)
Zero2Cool (1-May) : USFL MVP QB Alex McGough moved to WR. So that's why no WR drafted!
earthquake (1-May) : Packers draft starters at safety ever few years. Collins, Clinton-Dix, Savage
beast (1-May) : Why can't the rookies be a day 1 starter? Especially when we grabbed 3 of them at the position
dfosterf (1-May) : Not going to be shocked if Gilmore goes to the Lions.
dfosterf (1-May) : I hear you dhazer, but my guess would be Gilmore Colts and Howard Vikings from what little has been reported.
Mucky Tundra (30-Apr) : S learn from McKinney who learns from Hafley who learns from the fans. Guaranteed Super Bowl
Zero2Cool (30-Apr) : could*
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Safeties should learn from Xavier.
dhazer (29-Apr) : And what about grabbing a Gilmore or Howard at CB ? Those are all Free Agents left
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Recent Topics
1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

21h / Green Bay Packers Talk / dhazer

13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

12-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

11-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

10-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

10-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

9-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

7-May / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

7-May / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

5-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / beast

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.