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14 years ago
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d817615c8&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true 


By Bucky Brooks | NFL.com
Analyst


Editor's note: Anyone in the NFL will tell you it takes three years to judge a draft. With that in mind, we asked analyst Bucky Brooks to take a look at how every NFL team fared over the last three years. In the third of a four-day series, he examines the AFC and NFC North divisions:

Minnesota: A
Total picks made: 18
Picks on current roster: 12
Touchdowns: RB Adrian Peterson, WR Sidney Rice, WR Percy Harvin
Fumbles: CB Marcus McCauley
Jury still out: S Tyrell Johnson

Analysis: The Vikings have quietly assembled a roster that is as talented as any in the league. The Vikings have put together their Pro Bowl-laden lineup by repeatedly plucking impact players in the draft's early rounds. Adrian Peterson, Sidney Rice and Percy Harvin have emerged as some of the best players at their respective positions, and the Vikings wisely selected them by adhering to the "take the best player available" premise that is frequently uttered by scouts. Though the team had more pressing needs at those selections, the team's brass opted to take the top talent on the board regardless of position. In doing so, the Vikings fortified positions of strength and upgraded their overall talent base. Given the team's ability to routinely come up with impact players in the draft's early stages while avoiding big mistakes, the Vikings deserve high praise for their outstanding success on draft day.
Brooks' draft grades
NFL.com analyst Bucky Brooks takes a look this week at how every NFL has drafted over the last three years:

Green Bay: C
Total picks made: 28
Picks on current roster: 22
Touchdowns: LB Clay Matthews, TE Jermichael Finley
Fumbles: DT Justin Harrell, S Aaron Rouse, QB Brian Brohm
Jury still out: CB Pat Lee

Analysis: The Packers' recent draft haul has been a mixed bag, as several of the team's top picks have failed to perform to expectations. Justin Harrell, Brian Brohm and Aaron Rouse are a few of the Packers' early-round disappointments, and their failures have resulted in the team lacking quality depth in key areas. Though the team hit it big with the additions of Clay Matthews and Jermichael Finley, the inconsistent contributions of their top picks (B.J. Raji, Brandon Jackson, James Jones and Jordy Nelson) weighs down their overall grade when evaluating the overall impact of their recent drafts. The Packers unquestionably have a very talented roster, but their most recent draftees have delivered more promise than production at this point.

Detroit: C-
Total picks made: 27
Picks on current roster: 19
Touchdowns: WR Calvin Johnson, QB Matthew Stafford, S Louis Delmas
Fumbles: DE Ikaika Alama-Francis, QB Drew Stanton
Jury still out: LB Jordon Dizon

Analysis: The Lions ushered out the Matt Millen era after seven dismal seasons, and much of their ineptitude can be tied directly to the team's poor drafts during that period. Although Millen correctly nailed Calvin Johnson as an elite talent, the majority of the team's picks have been unproductive in a Lions uniform. However, the tide may be changing under the direction of Martin Mayhew. The team identified its quarterback of the future with the selection of Matthew Stafford last season. In addition, the team picked up an impact safety (Louis Delmas) and tight end (Brandon Pettigrew) in the draft's early rounds. While those picks are enough to erase several years of incompetence, the Lions appear to be on the road to respectability behind a refocused approach to the draft.

Chicago: D
Total picks made: 30
Picks on current roster:19
Touchdowns: TE Greg Olsen, RB Matt Forte
Fumbles: LB Michael Okwo, DE Dan Bazuin
Jury still out: WR Juaquin Iglesias, DT Jarron Gilbert

Analysis: The Bears have been aggressive with their approach to the draft and free agency, but the dicey moves have not delivered positive results. Although the jettisoning of a first- and third-round pick landed the team a Pro Bowl quarterback (Jay Cutler), his first season in the Windy City left a lot to be desired, and without a bevy of early-round selections the team was unable to surround him with the requisite playmakers. While Greg Olsen and Matt Forte have justified their lofty draft status with solid production, the team's other top picks have repeatedly fallen short of expectation. Michael Okwo and Dan Bazuin are a few of the Bears' selections that can be considered busts. Additionally, the team is patiently waiting for contributions from its top picks (Jarron Gilbert and Juaquin Iglesias) from a season ago. The Bears have been bold and daring in attempting to upgrade their roster, but the result has been more sizzle than substance at this point.


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RaiderPride
14 years ago
Is there any posible way to prevent my friend "Hazer" from reading this thread..

Just Kidding Hazer.

Go At It.
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earthquake
14 years ago
A bit of a silly article, considering the guy starts off by saying you cant judge a draft until 3 years have passed, but then goes on to judge 1 2 and 3 year old drafts, also seems to be only looking at the first few rounds as well. A bit of a lazy job i would say. Thompson's record in the early rounds has been pretty shakey, but no mention of later round guys at all? Also, saying Rice and Harvin are two of the best at their positions, sure if you're saying Harvin's position is a kick returner you've got a point, otherwise its simply laughable. Also not to mention that the vikings 2008 draft produced NOT A SINGLE PLAYER.

Do the vikings have more impact players the past 3 years? You can make a pretty good argument to say that, yeah. Have they been head and shoulders above, A vs C if you look at the entire draft? No, absolutely not.

What is most surprising here as how few picks the Vikes have had, whats the deal there? Trading for Allen factor into that?

While we're being retarded and grading drafts only a year old, lets take a look at 2009 for GB.

1 B.J. Raji Boston College decent, potential to be great
1 Clay Matthews Southern Cal great
4 T.J. Lang Eastern Michigan very good
5 Quinn Johnson LSU ok, potential to be very good
5 Jamon Meredith South Carolina ok, would like him to still be on the team
6 Jarius Wynn Georgia ok, a role player is a decent job for a 6th round rookie
6 Brandon Underwood Cincinnati average, hopefully some potential here
7 Brad Jones Colorado great production for a 7th round pick

Holy crap that is a good draft, consider how many picks were traded away to get Mathews and its even more impressive, really is there a guy on that list you can say was a "bad" pick? The one guy who didn't make the team(lord knows why not) ended up starting some games for who was it, the bills?
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tromadz
14 years ago
Have a hard time taking a guy named Bucky Brooks seriously.
dyeah_gb
14 years ago
To not give Ted Thompson an A grade in the last draft for getting CM3 alone is silly.
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porky88
14 years ago
B.J. Raji was hurt for half the year, but when he was healthy, he made a huge impact last season I thought. He was good for a couple of big plays a game. He helped shut down Ray Rice, who ran all over everyone else. I'm not sure about putting him in the same category as Brandon Jackson and James Jones. Normally people look at the last five drafts because you get a better idea on how the players develop. Even someone like Jermichael Finley hasn't quite reached his potential. He's going to be scary good next year.

It's a matter of opinion. Three years is probably not what I would've used to put together a grading series. Five is what I would've done.
isocleas2
14 years ago
I'm not sure how he expects Jones and Jordy to be consistent when they are given inconsistent minutes. That's just how shit works when you have two pro bowl calibre starting receivers who havn't missed much time. When the time comes for Driver to lose his #2 spot I think one of the two will step up just fine.
nerdmann
14 years ago

I'm not sure how he expects Jones and Jordy to be consistent when they are given inconsistent minutes. That's just how shit works when you have two pro bowl calibre starting receivers who havn't missed much time. When the time comes for Driver to lose his #2 spot I think one of the two will step up just fine.

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That's exactly right dude. Give any one of those guys enough reps, and they'll be putting up the numbers. Bjack too. He's like a better cutting version of Grant, who can also catch the ball. (Although he does tend to tip the ball up in the air first at times.)
Then you add a guy like Brad Jones. Some think he could have been the steal of that draft. Yeah, we drafted Justin Harrell, but you know what? The Queens drafted Demetrius Underwood. Was that the guy's name? Dude attempted suicide and shit? Please.
Not only that but Harvin and Rice wouldn't be anything without Favre. Was this written by that Queens homer Kevin Seiffert?
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RaiderPride
14 years ago

B.J. Raji was hurt for half the year, but when he was healthy, he made a huge impact last season I thought. He was good for a couple of big plays a game. He helped shut down Ray Rice, who ran all over everyone else.

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Now this is a read that I can seriously sleep on. You know, lay one's head on one's pillow and fall asleep knowing that the last thing you read was as right as rain.

Thank You Porky88

I shall dream tonight of Raji stuffing the best of the best, of the best, of the best, for 16 games next year.

Oh.... By The Way... This will happen. Raji wll be in the Pro Bowl next year.
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Since69
14 years ago

A bit of a silly article, considering the guy starts off by saying you cant judge a draft until 3 years have passed, but then goes on to judge 1 2 and 3 year old drafts, also seems to be only looking at the first few rounds as well.

"earthquake" wrote:



That's what I was thinking, too. I'd put more stock in grades for the 2005-2007 drafts.
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