dfosterf
14 years ago

A staple for any offense on the road is to try and establish a run game.

"British" wrote:



As a relative newbie could someone explain why is it more important to get a running game going when you're on the road?

"warhawk" wrote:



One of the biggest reasons is that it takes the crowd out of the game. It is hard to get your team fired up as a fan if you are sitting on your hands while the visiting team grinds your defense into the dirt. Call it the ultimate in momentum and emotion killers.
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

A staple for any offense on the road is to try and establish a run game.

"British" wrote:



As a relative newbie could someone explain why is it more important to get a running game going when you're on the road?

"warhawk" wrote:

For me personally it would be to silence the crowd and I believe running plays are easier for an OL to execute with less call changes at the line. The call changes at the line could be hard if its loud.
UserPostedImage
British
14 years ago
Thanks chaps.
UserPostedImage
Felipe7777777
14 years ago
It kind of pissed me off where i believe they were on that "Prevent D" on that 3rd & 20 when Crab caught that freakin TD....damn i hate that freakin formation
blank
beast
14 years ago

It kind of pissed me off where i believe they were on that "Prevent D" on that 3rd & 20 when Crab caught that freakin TD....damn i hate that freakin formation

"Felipe7777777" wrote:



Yeah I'm thinking players just get mentally out of it when you go to that... I say attack attack attack... and yeah that's high risk.... but it's also high reward IF the players get the job done and I think we have the players (well maybe not now in the DBs after the starters but everywhere else we got the guys IMO)
UserPostedImage
Felipe7777777
14 years ago

It kind of pissed me off where i believe they were on that "Prevent D" on that 3rd & 20 when Crab caught that freakin TD....damn i hate that freakin formation

"beast" wrote:



Yeah I'm thinking players just get mentally out of it when you go to that... I say attack attack attack... and yeah that's high risk.... but it's also high reward IF the players get the job done and I think we have the players (well maybe not now in the DBs after the starters but everywhere else we got the guys IMO)

"Felipe7777777" wrote:



i agree, dont let a QB sit back and just pick his spot EVEN IN a so-called "Prevent D"...keep on attacking him and give him no time to throw or even go thru his reads....especially on a 3rd & long....
blank
zombieslayer
14 years ago
Yeah, on one of the TD passes (I think it was his first one), we rushed 3 people. Rushing 3 people should be against the law.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
Rockmolder
14 years ago

It kind of pissed me off where i believe they were on that "Prevent D" on that 3rd & 20 when Crab caught that freakin TD....damn i hate that freakin formation

"Felipe7777777" wrote:



Yeah I'm thinking players just get mentally out of it when you go to that... I say attack attack attack... and yeah that's high risk.... but it's also high reward IF the players get the job done and I think we have the players (well maybe not now in the DBs after the starters but everywhere else we got the guys IMO)

"beast" wrote:



i agree, dont let a QB sit back and just pick his spot EVEN IN a so-called "Prevent D"...keep on attacking him and give him no time to throw or even go thru his reads....especially on a 3rd & long....

"Felipe7777777" wrote:



I agree.

What exactly do DCs think here? I mean, if you're up by two scores and your defense is out there with 50 seconds left in the game, I can understand that you drop 8 in coverage and keep everything underneath.

When you're up by 7 or something in the 3rd on 3rd and 15, I don't get why you bring just 3. In a 3-4, you essentially bring 3 DTs, with two of them maybe being a little more athletic. One in our case, in Jenkins. You should at least go with the standard 4 man rush like you'd do in a 4-3 defense. Bring at least one OLB.

My philosophy would be bringing 5 or 6. Let him get the ball of before he can get it deep. Leave the flats open. Drop the other 5 or 6 guys in shallow and deep zones.

Sure, a screen might get through every once in a while and you obviously shouldn't bring pressure every single time, but c'mon, rushing 3 obviously doesn't work.
warhawk
14 years ago
Personally I think Harris baited on that play and saw what was coming. He was moving backwards before the snap and Crabtree did nothing to confuse him that he was going to the endzone.

Harris was there until the last step or so and it was a perfect pass just out of his reach. It was a play where the 49'rs were going to go with Crabtree one on one and hope he would win that one and he did.

I agree pressure there could have changed that outcome because any throw other than right where he threw that one does not end the way it did. I'm not sure how many 3rd and longs we have to lose before Capers figures out they need to do something other than the 3 man rush there.
"The train is leaving the station."
Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Crabtree also pushed off on Harris. Someone in the chat mistakenly said it didn't happen, but watching the replay and reviewing the game. It was a push off. Should it have been called? I don't know, personally, I'd rather just let MEN play a MAN's game and quit with all the ticky tack flags.
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (3h) : Jordan Love CAN sign an extension as of today. Might tak weeks/months though
TheKanataThrilla (4h) : Packers decline 5th year option for Stokes
Mucky Tundra (8h) : @ProFootballTalk Jaylen Warren: Steelers' special teams coach has discussed Justin Fields returning kicks.
Zero2Cool (17h) : Season officially ending tonight for Bucks ... sad face
Zero2Cool (17h) : Giannis Antetokounmpo is listed as out for tonight's game.
dfosterf (21h) : Surprisingly low initially is my guess cap wise, but gonna pay the piper after that
dfosterf (21h) : The number on Love is going to be brutal.
Zero2Cool (22h) : May 3rd. Extension day for Jordan Love. (soonest)
Zero2Cool (1-May) : USFL MVP QB Alex McGough moved to WR. So that's why no WR drafted!
earthquake (1-May) : Packers draft starters at safety ever few years. Collins, Clinton-Dix, Savage
beast (1-May) : Why can't the rookies be a day 1 starter? Especially when we grabbed 3 of them at the position
dfosterf (1-May) : Not going to be shocked if Gilmore goes to the Lions.
dfosterf (1-May) : I hear you dhazer, but my guess would be Gilmore Colts and Howard Vikings from what little has been reported.
Mucky Tundra (30-Apr) : S learn from McKinney who learns from Hafley who learns from the fans. Guaranteed Super Bowl
Zero2Cool (30-Apr) : could*
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Safeties should learn from Xavier.
dhazer (29-Apr) : And what about grabbing a Gilmore or Howard at CB ? Those are all Free Agents left
dhazer (29-Apr) : out of curiosity do they try and sign Simmons or Hyde to let these young safeties learn from, they can't be day 1 starters.
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : I miss having Sam Shields.
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Not that he's making excuses, just pointing it out
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : That's for dang sure. Make our erratic kicker have no excuse!
packerfanoutwest (28-Apr) : having a great long snapper is gold
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : LaFleur looking like he had some weight. Coachin will do that lol
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : Thanks Mucky and whomever created topcos for each pick!
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : Insane about Kingsley
dfosterf (28-Apr) : Putring it here so Mucky sees it. He was our guy!
dfosterf (28-Apr) : Bowden long snapper Wisconsin. Consensus best LS in college.
dfosterf (28-Apr) : We got Peter Bowde
dfosterf (28-Apr) : I personally interpret that as a partial tear that can be recovered from with rehab
dfosterf (28-Apr) : MLF said Kingsley Enagbare did NOT tear his ACL and did NOT require surgery, and that he is "looking good" for the 2024 season!
beast (28-Apr) : T.O. son signs with the 49ers
Mucky Tundra (28-Apr) : damn those vikings
beast (27-Apr) : UDFA Vikings sign TE – Trey Knox, South Carolina
beast (27-Apr) : Kitchen was all high from Miami, he was more lucky than talented in 2022 and it showed in 2023
beast (27-Apr) : Reportedly Packers have UDFAs Jennings and Jones
beast (27-Apr) : OL – Donovan Jennings, USF OT – Trente Jones, Michigan
TheKanataThrilla (27-Apr) : Interesting draft. A bit shocked that we didn't select an early CB. Definitely have Safety help. Pretty happy overall.
dhazer (27-Apr) : wow the last 2 picks are really stupid and probably will be special teams players Top 10 draft pick next year book it
TheKanataThrilla (27-Apr) : I think he ended up with a terrible RAS score
dhazer (27-Apr) : Anyone know what went on with Kitchens from Florida? At 1 point he was to be the Packers 1st round and he is way down the board now
Martha Careful (27-Apr) : Z, could you please combine my thread with yours please. I obviously did not see it when I Created it
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Re: 'Kool-Aid' McKinstry. Other than Icky Woods, has there ever been a good NFLer with a childish nickname?
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Packers looking to trade up
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Flag?
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Sag?
Nonstopdrivel (26-Apr) : It rhymes with "bag."
beast (26-Apr) : Family? That's Deadpool's F word
Nonstopdrivel (26-Apr) : Not THAT f-word.
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : fuck
beast (25-Apr) : 49ers are Cap Tight
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2023 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM
Bears
Sunday, Sep 17 @ 12:00 PM
Falcons
Sunday, Sep 24 @ 12:00 PM
SAINTS
Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:15 PM
LIONS
Monday, Oct 9 @ 7:15 PM
Raiders
Sunday, Oct 22 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Nov 5 @ 12:00 PM
RAMS
Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM
CHARGERS
Thursday, Nov 23 @ 11:30 AM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 3 @ 7:20 PM
CHIEFS
Monday, Dec 11 @ 7:15 PM
Giants
Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM
BUCCANEERS
Sunday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
Panthers
Sunday, Dec 31 @ 7:20 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 7 @ 3:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 14 @ 3:30 PM
Cowboys
Saturday, Jan 20 @ 7:15 PM
49ers
Recent Topics
3h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / go.pack.go.

16h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

20h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

2-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

1-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

1-May / Packers Draft Threads / dfosterf

30-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

29-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

29-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / Zero2Cool

29-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

29-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

29-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

28-Apr / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

28-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.