Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Regular season, He missed a ton in preseason. I don't care if it those don't count in his stats. Crosby is not one of the higher percentage kickers, and losing his deep kickoff ability has made him very expendable.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



So, you're saying Crosby should have kicked it deep regardless of what the coaches instructed him to do?

I said before the game and during. I'd rather us have just done on sides kicks. Why? Because Crosby is very good at them and if we get them back, great, if not, well the field position would be the same. Turns out that was accurate, unfortunately.
UserPostedImage
MontanaBob
14 years ago
Real easy to blame the kickers isn't it PFWT? Uh, seems to me those three points wouldn't have made a hell of a lot of difference.

Oh, that's right. Crosby is at fault for the O-lines weaknesses. My gosh, it's Crosby's fault Rodgers held the ball to long and got sacked upteen million times. And don't forget, it's Crosby who made Jolly headbutt that poor guy and give the Vikes a first down.

Yep, blame the kicker.

BTW...less than 20% of all kick-offs are touch-backs. Especially in open air stadiums.
Anyone for a Weenie Roast?
PackFanWithTwins
14 years ago
What I am saying, is that everybody I have seen, justified the letting of Longwell go because he could not kick it deep. He is about as accurate as they come on FG, but we always gave up field position because of his kickoffs. Well, Longwell is an more accurate FG kicker than Crosby, and now Crosby cannot kick it deep either.

I highly doubt that the coaching staff said, I don't care if you can kick it out of the endzone, we want you to float one to the 10 15 yards line so we can get coverage. They made them choices because Crosby cannot be relied upon get it deep.

So now we are in the same field position problem we had with Longwell, and we lost some of the accuracy he had. I am just putting the same reasoning for letting Longwell go, towards Crosby.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Stevetarded
14 years ago

Regular season, He missed a ton in preseason. I don't care if it those don't count in his stats. Crosby is not one of the higher percentage kickers, and losing his deep kickoff ability has made him very expendable.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



You make absolutely no sense. You are saying he isn't a high percentage kicker even though he is 13/14 because he missed some FGs in preseason. That has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever read.
blank
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

What I am saying, is that everybody I have seen, justified the letting of Longwell go because he could not kick it deep. He is about as accurate as they come on FG, but we always gave up field position because of his kickoffs. Well, Longwell is an more accurate FG kicker than Crosby, and now Crosby cannot kick it deep either.

I highly doubt that the coaching staff said, I don't care if you can kick it out of the endzone, we want you to float one to the 10 15 yards line so we can get coverage. They made them choices because Crosby cannot be relied upon get it deep.

So now we are in the same field position problem we had with Longwell, and we lost some of the accuracy he had. I am just putting the same reasoning for letting Longwell go, towards Crosby.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



Longwell left because he wanted to play in a dome to finish his career. Quit crying over spilled milk. That was YEARS ago. Only way we could have kept him is over pay for him or put a roof on Lambeau Field.

And you're wrong about a staff not telling a kicker to float it high for coverage. It happens a lot. It's called strategy.

The ideal kickoff would have been HIGH and DEEP into the endzone. How many kickers can do that? One? Two? Maybe a few more. I think Crosby could do it, but was focusing too much on getting it high.


Again...
Longwell wanted to play in a dome or warm climate to finish his career.
Crosby is not the problem.
UserPostedImage
IronMan
14 years ago

Regular season, He missed a ton in preseason. I don't care if it those don't count in his stats. Crosby is not one of the higher percentage kickers, and losing his deep kickoff ability has made him very expendable.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



You make absolutely no sense. You are saying he isn't a high percentage kicker even though he is 13/14 because he missed some FGs in preseason. That has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:


Crosby is 14/18. His ranks 22nd in the league in accuracy. Last year he was 26th.
Stevetarded
14 years ago

Regular season, He missed a ton in preseason. I don't care if it those don't count in his stats. Crosby is not one of the higher percentage kickers, and losing his deep kickoff ability has made him very expendable.

"IronMan" wrote:



You make absolutely no sense. You are saying he isn't a high percentage kicker even though he is 13/14 because he missed some FGs in preseason. That has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

"Stevetarded" wrote:


Crosby is 14/18. His ranks 22nd in the league in accuracy. Last year he was 26th.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



we were discussing short FGs so I was referencing those less than 50 yards.
blank
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Regular season, He missed a ton in preseason. I don't care if it those don't count in his stats. Crosby is not one of the higher percentage kickers, and losing his deep kickoff ability has made him very expendable.

"IronMan" wrote:



You make absolutely no sense. You are saying he isn't a high percentage kicker even though he is 13/14 because he missed some FGs in preseason. That has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

"Stevetarded" wrote:


Crosby is 14/18. His ranks 22nd in the league in accuracy. Last year he was 26th.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



23rd and more than a dozen of those ahead of him haven't even attempted a 50 plus FG where Crosby is 1 of 4.

You remove the 50+ yarders and he's tied at 6th.
UserPostedImage
PackFanWithTwins
14 years ago
You are missing the point. We gave up Longwell, because he couldn't kick deep when cold. Crosby is not as accurate as Longwell. Now Crosby cannot kick it deep either. (not to mention it isn't cold yet). But you all want to settle for Crosby.

In my book, we went from a great FG kicker to a lesser Kicker because we wanted to get better field position. Well, we are not getting that. But lets just keep the status quo. Yes there are other problems. And those have been picked apart mostly.

Our Kicking game is a problem. Crosby has never been above 80% on FG. Longwell was 80 or above in 7 of 9 years.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

You are missing the point. We gave up Longwell, because he couldn't kick deep when cold. Crosby is not as accurate as Longwell. Now Crosby cannot kick it deep either. (not to mention it isn't cold yet). But you all want to settle for Crosby.

In my book, we went from a great FG kicker to a lesser Kicker because we wanted to get better field position. Well, we are not getting that. But lets just keep the status quo. Yes there are other problems. And those have been picked apart mostly.

Our Kicking game is a problem. Crosby has never been above 80% on FG. Longwell was 80 or above in 7 of 9 years.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



You're missing the point! Longwell wanted OUT of Green Bay! He wanted to kick his final years in a better climate aka DOME. We didn't let him go. HE chose to GO.

This Crosby can't kick it deep over one game is absurd. That's like saying the Packers didn't throw it short because Rodgers can't throw a short pass.

There's a thing called ... game plan. And our game plan sucked.


You can mistakenly pin it on Crosby all you want, but know this. You're wrong.
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (9h) : USFL MVP QB Alex McGough moved to WR. So that's why no WR drafted!
earthquake (12h) : Packers draft starters at safety ever few years. Collins, Clinton-Dix, Savage
beast (15h) : Why can't the rookies be a day 1 starter? Especially when we grabbed 3 of them at the position
dfosterf (17h) : Not going to be shocked if Gilmore goes to the Lions.
dfosterf (19h) : I hear you dhazer, but my guess would be Gilmore Colts and Howard Vikings from what little has been reported.
Mucky Tundra (30-Apr) : S learn from McKinney who learns from Hafley who learns from the fans. Guaranteed Super Bowl
Zero2Cool (30-Apr) : could*
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Safeties should learn from Xavier.
dhazer (29-Apr) : And what about grabbing a Gilmore or Howard at CB ? Those are all Free Agents left
dhazer (29-Apr) : out of curiosity do they try and sign Simmons or Hyde to let these young safeties learn from, they can't be day 1 starters.
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : I miss having Sam Shields.
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Not that he's making excuses, just pointing it out
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : That's for dang sure. Make our erratic kicker have no excuse!
packerfanoutwest (28-Apr) : having a great long snapper is gold
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : LaFleur looking like he had some weight. Coachin will do that lol
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : Thanks Mucky and whomever created topcos for each pick!
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : Insane about Kingsley
dfosterf (28-Apr) : Putring it here so Mucky sees it. He was our guy!
dfosterf (28-Apr) : Bowden long snapper Wisconsin. Consensus best LS in college.
dfosterf (28-Apr) : We got Peter Bowde
dfosterf (28-Apr) : I personally interpret that as a partial tear that can be recovered from with rehab
dfosterf (28-Apr) : MLF said Kingsley Enagbare did NOT tear his ACL and did NOT require surgery, and that he is "looking good" for the 2024 season!
beast (28-Apr) : T.O. son signs with the 49ers
Mucky Tundra (28-Apr) : damn those vikings
beast (27-Apr) : UDFA Vikings sign TE – Trey Knox, South Carolina
beast (27-Apr) : Kitchen was all high from Miami, he was more lucky than talented in 2022 and it showed in 2023
beast (27-Apr) : Reportedly Packers have UDFAs Jennings and Jones
beast (27-Apr) : OL – Donovan Jennings, USF OT – Trente Jones, Michigan
TheKanataThrilla (27-Apr) : Interesting draft. A bit shocked that we didn't select an early CB. Definitely have Safety help. Pretty happy overall.
dhazer (27-Apr) : wow the last 2 picks are really stupid and probably will be special teams players Top 10 draft pick next year book it
TheKanataThrilla (27-Apr) : I think he ended up with a terrible RAS score
dhazer (27-Apr) : Anyone know what went on with Kitchens from Florida? At 1 point he was to be the Packers 1st round and he is way down the board now
Martha Careful (27-Apr) : Z, could you please combine my thread with yours please. I obviously did not see it when I Created it
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Re: 'Kool-Aid' McKinstry. Other than Icky Woods, has there ever been a good NFLer with a childish nickname?
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Packers looking to trade up
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Flag?
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Sag?
Nonstopdrivel (26-Apr) : It rhymes with "bag."
beast (26-Apr) : Family? That's Deadpool's F word
Nonstopdrivel (26-Apr) : Not THAT f-word.
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : fuck
beast (25-Apr) : 49ers are Cap Tight
beast (25-Apr) : Fuck
Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : Kanata, I will be when I'm on my lunch later
TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : Love you NSD
Nonstopdrivel (25-Apr) : Huh. I guess the F-word is censored in this fan shout.
Nonstopdrivel (25-Apr) : Anyone who doesn't hang out in the chat probably smokes pole.
TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : GoPackGo Thinking CB is the pick tonight
TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : Anyone hanging out in the chat tonight?
Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : whoa...49ers have had trade conversations about both Deebo Samuel and Brandon Aiyuk
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2023 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM
Bears
Sunday, Sep 17 @ 12:00 PM
Falcons
Sunday, Sep 24 @ 12:00 PM
SAINTS
Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:15 PM
LIONS
Monday, Oct 9 @ 7:15 PM
Raiders
Sunday, Oct 22 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Nov 5 @ 12:00 PM
RAMS
Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM
CHARGERS
Thursday, Nov 23 @ 11:30 AM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 3 @ 7:20 PM
CHIEFS
Monday, Dec 11 @ 7:15 PM
Giants
Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM
BUCCANEERS
Sunday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
Panthers
Sunday, Dec 31 @ 7:20 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 7 @ 3:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 14 @ 3:30 PM
Cowboys
Saturday, Jan 20 @ 7:15 PM
49ers
Recent Topics
5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

20h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20h / Packers Draft Threads / dfosterf

30-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

29-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

29-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / Zero2Cool

29-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

29-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

29-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

28-Apr / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

28-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

28-Apr / Packers Draft Threads / Martha Careful

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.