Dulak
6 years ago
https://www.totalpackers.com/2018/03/jones-says-packers-low-balled-jordy-nelson/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+totalpackers+%28Total+Packers%29 

not sure how to do a direct link but there you go ...

So how much did they offer him 1 mil a year from 10? or 2 mil come on ... hes not worth that even to the new gm? seriously?

I dont get any consolidation when a player does well that we let go - noone says oh ya you were right ... what we get is a lesser team.

blueleopard
6 years ago
This is what have you done for us lately league, and the fact of the matter is Nelson didn't do much last season, and Cobb did more and his younger.

There's no loyalty in pro sports. That's a myth. Ask Brett Favre and Peyton Manning.
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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago

There's no loyalty in pro sports.

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 


And there shouldn't be. The point is to win games, not to pander to fan nostalgia. That nostalgia quickly turns to bitterness as soon as the team starts to suck.
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Dulak
6 years ago

This is what have you done for us lately league, and the fact of the matter is Nelson didn't do much last season, and Cobb did more and his younger.

There's no loyalty in pro sports. That's a myth. Ask Brett Favre and Peyton Manning.

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 



What is the saying - you can make stats say anything - we can make jordy look bad by showing the stats of hundley throwing to adams mainly or we can show stats from the first 6 games and the previous year of rodgers throwing to jordy.

Im not sure who really cares about what hundley can do or has done.

the player that should of been shipped out as soon as FA started is hundley.

beast
6 years ago


So how much did they offer him 1 mil a year from 10? or 2 mil come on ... hes not worth that even to the new gm? seriously?

Originally Posted by: Dulak 


That's why I'm saying you can still blame the Packers... because while they did give Nelson an offer, it was a just P.R. offer... so they can claim they offered something and Nelson was the one to walk away... not them.

If they were to offer Nelson 5 million, I think Nelson would of taken it and then Cobb might of walked... heck James Jones implied that Nelson really considered the $2 million (or less).

Then offer it to Cobb, and then you get both to reduced contracts or you then free up $15 million when you release Cobb.
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Cheesey
6 years ago
The last loyalty I remember was Donald Driver. He took less, and retired when it was obvious that the Packers would be moving on.

Robin Yount took a lot less money from the Milwaukee Brewers to stay here for his entire career then the big money he could have got on the open market.
These types are very rare though.
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TheKanataThrilla
6 years ago

The last loyalty I remember was Donald Driver. He took less, and retired when it was obvious that the Packers would be moving on.

Robin Yount took a lot less money from the Milwaukee Brewers to stay here for his entire career then the big money he could have got on the open market.
These types are very rare though.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Loyalty is a 2 way street. Green Bay told him he would be cut if he didn't take less than the contract they both agreed to. The Packers are the ones who broke the agreement, why should there be loyalty on Jordy's part?

I will say that I agree with the cut, but I do think I would have cut Cobb instead. Age really doesn't matter as they both only have one year left on their contract. So if Cobb produces this year is it because of age or because he is playing for a new contract? Are we gonna get fooled again and give him big bucks on another deal?
beast
6 years ago

The last loyalty I remember was Donald Driver. He took less, and retired when it was obvious that the Packers would be moving on.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 

Your being completely biased and missing a larger point... you're criticizing players... When in reality loyalty is a two way street.

It wasn't Driver being loyal, it was BOTH Driver and the Packers being loyal and they kept Driver on larger contact until he became the 5th receiver.

5th receivers are normally considered to be young developmental players and/or special teams aces... which Driver was clearly neither at that point.

So really that contract reduction was not loyalty but common sense... neither side could justify keeping Driver on the larger contract.


Nelson was loyal to the Packers... the Packers just weren't loyal back in this position/ at this time. Offering Nelson a contract less than $2 million when his market is $7.5 million is a joke... and James Jones reported Nelson was still considering it because he wanted to stay.

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Cheesey
6 years ago
BOTH sides are guilty of lack of loyalty. But the Packers are a business and have to run it that way. It’s not like Nelson wasn’t paid VERY well for the last 10 years. And Nelson earned it.
It IS a 2 way street.
I don’t blame Nelson for running after the money.
We are Packer fans, and love “our” team. The players don’t. It’s a JOB for them.

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beast
6 years ago

BOTH sides are guilty of lack of loyalty. But the Packers are a business and have to run it that way. It’s not like Nelson wasn’t paid VERY well for the last 10 years. And Nelson earned it.
It IS a 2 way street.
I don’t blame Nelson for running after the money.
We are Packer fans, and love “our” team. The players don’t. It’s a JOB for them.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



You're making excuses for one side that in reality work for both sides. Packers are a business, BUT so are individual contractors, such as players. It's all business so that excuse doesn't work.

Nelson got paid well, but the Packers also got some damn good results from him too, so again that again is a wash. And when Nelson signed that contract many were surprised it was so low... claiming Nelson clearly left money on the table as WRs of his talents were getting a good bit more elsewhere.

We are Packers fans and we do love our team. But that doesn't mean we can't love our players as well. Nor does it mean our team is always right.

If the Packers asked Nelson to reduce his salary to 50% he probably would... but less than 20%... when he probably would be a starter? I don't think there is a single person that would do that...

(Tom Brady doesn't count as he was the very poor one in his marriage)
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