Barfarn
  • Barfarn
  • Senior Member Topic Starter
6 years ago
When watching movies of Jackie Robinson I get pissed-off, don’t we all get pissed-off?

I fantasize that if a player or a fan in the day, I would openly support Robinson’s “offensive and inappropriately placed protests.”

Forget that for now, let’s jump back and link into the mind of a grumbling Dodgers fan concerning Jackie’s protests: “WTF is this guy doing? Sure, there are some inequities in society, this is wrong and it must be fixed, but not here. This is baseball; this is not a venue for political speech or a political forum. There are plenty of Negro leagues for this troublemaker to play in and many other venues that he can protest about his lack of civil rights. And WTF is this going to do to the chemistry of my beloved Dodgers.”

Today, it is universally understood, the NFL is a brand and that brand by its own definition constitutes itself as a role model; its players are role models. Pure White baseball standing all by itself TEACHES and ENCOURAGES segregation. Football penalizing a lawful protest sends a horrific role model message. Sports seriously harms segregation and prejudice. It is a whole lot harder to hate all Blacks if you grow up idolizing Reggie White or Willie Mays. A lot harder to believe in segregation, when Blacks and Whites executing a play together or jump on each other after a TD or game whining home run.

It is because of Branch Rickey, Vince Lombardi and the attention racial issues receive thru sports that has positively worked to educated and enlightened our society with regard to racial hate and prejudice.
Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago

Today, it is universally understood, the NFL is a brand and that brand by its own definition constitutes itself as a role model

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



I'm struggling to parse out the semantic meaning lurking behind this rather peculiar turn of phrase, but whatever meaning it does have, I doubt it's "universally understood." On the other hand, maybe you can deign to clarify this comment for the benighted among us.
UserPostedImage
Barfarn
  • Barfarn
  • Senior Member Topic Starter
6 years ago

I'm struggling to parse out the semantic meaning lurking behind this rather peculiar turn of phrase, but whatever meaning it does have, I doubt it's "universally understood." On the other hand, maybe you can deign to clarify this comment for the benighted among us.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Wasn't trying to "turn a phrase" just poor/confusing sentence structure...LOL

The NFL says the League and players are role models for society. The players and their union, the media and the fans are aware and accept this. This understanding gives the league the authority to, for example, regulate what a person can wear or not wear, or what a person can do on and off the field, or meat out discipline discipline on a player declared by our courts to be "not guilty."
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
6 years ago
I know it's the NFL and players, especially linemen, like to eat.
It's "mete out discipline" not "meat".
🤣
UserPostedImage
Cheesey
6 years ago
If you did watch the Jackie Robinson movie, would you say today's world is the same as back then?
I'd say it's changed quite dramatically.

These stupid "protests" of NFL players trying to make some point (which it really doesn't, it's just another liberal feel good move that actually does nothing) just makes the average person want to turn their collective backs on these multi-millionaire players.

If they really want to use their position to make a point, how about doing it on their OWN TIME. Not when people are paying hard earned money to watch these guys play football.
these guys make more money in a season then average people make in a decade.

If you REALLY want to make a change, use some of your millions to set up inner city places where people could go and talk about the real inner city issues. Locking arms or kneeling during the national anthem does NOTHING except put more distance between races.

Let's face it, their so called "point" has been made. Now stop the B.S. and actually DO something constructive if you really care about people like you say you do.
UserPostedImage
Barfarn
  • Barfarn
  • Senior Member Topic Starter
6 years ago

If you did watch the Jackie Robinson movie, would you say today's world is the same as back then?
I'd say it's changed quite dramatically.

These stupid "protests" of NFL players trying to make some point (which it really doesn't, it's just another liberal feel good move that actually does nothing) just makes the average person want to turn their collective backs on these multi-millionaire players.

If they really want to use their position to make a point, how about doing it on their OWN TIME. Not when people are paying hard earned money to watch these guys play football.
these guys make more money in a season then average people make in a decade.

If you REALLY want to make a change, use some of your millions to set up inner city places where people could go and talk about the real inner city issues. Locking arms or kneeling during the national anthem does NOTHING except put more distance between races.

Let's face it, their so called "point" has been made. Now stop the B.S. and actually DO something constructive if you really care about people like you say you do.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



The Protest isnt about making a point; it is to bring change!

Why is a movement to get bad cops off the street so offensive to you?

Before going with your pat answer [just dont run from cops 😂], explain why Bennett's attorney in 2003 got $11M for 119 plaintiffs; why Chicago paid $662M for 2004-2015 in misconduct claims, if the cops are usually doing the right thing. Find one major metro that has not paid millions out in the last 5 years, ONE! Ever single one has! Surely if all these cases were about Black guys getting brutalized because they ran from the cops, who used justifiable force, these payouts would be much smaller or nonexistent.

In each of these cases, an insurance company, a city attorney, a judges and/or a juries with intimate knowledge of each case, places a value on that case when deciding to settle or go to trial or deciding how much the cops should pay. To prove your point just about everyone of these people have to be idiots.

Oh and The players dont need help. Guys like Bennett have the coin to hire a lawyer like Burris; Bennett will make at least several hundred thou off the LVMPD! They're raising their voice for the voiceless, the poor who cant fight in a substantially corrupt system with a hefty dose of racism.
Cheesey
6 years ago
Barfarn, I hope you never need assistance from the police. You seem to think so many of them are EVIL.
So....because there are some bad black people, should I protest about them and lump ALL black people into evil people? That's what you are doing with the police.
I was talking to 2 sheriffs yesterday, and they said "maybe we all should just take a couple weeks off, and then see how bad and useless we are".
I wouldn't blame them if they did, because of the attitude people like you have about them.
Wake up and face the truth. The vast majority of people shot by cops are because of what the people they stop do.
THAT is the truth you refuse to face.
Just keep your eyes (and your mind) closed to the truth.
That's the only way you can keep your beliefs(desires) alive in your mind. And your hate from dieing.
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Mucky Tundra (6h) : @mattschneidman Matt LaFleur on how he tore his pec: “Got in a fight with the bench press. I lost.”
Zero2Cool (3-May) : Jordan Love CAN sign an extension as of today. Might tak weeks/months though
TheKanataThrilla (3-May) : Packers decline 5th year option for Stokes
Mucky Tundra (3-May) : @ProFootballTalk Jaylen Warren: Steelers' special teams coach has discussed Justin Fields returning kicks.
Zero2Cool (2-May) : Season officially ending tonight for Bucks ... sad face
Zero2Cool (2-May) : Giannis Antetokounmpo is listed as out for tonight's game.
dfosterf (2-May) : Surprisingly low initially is my guess cap wise, but gonna pay the piper after that
dfosterf (2-May) : The number on Love is going to be brutal.
Zero2Cool (2-May) : May 3rd. Extension day for Jordan Love. (soonest)
Zero2Cool (1-May) : USFL MVP QB Alex McGough moved to WR. So that's why no WR drafted!
earthquake (1-May) : Packers draft starters at safety ever few years. Collins, Clinton-Dix, Savage
beast (1-May) : Why can't the rookies be a day 1 starter? Especially when we grabbed 3 of them at the position
dfosterf (1-May) : Not going to be shocked if Gilmore goes to the Lions.
dfosterf (1-May) : I hear you dhazer, but my guess would be Gilmore Colts and Howard Vikings from what little has been reported.
Mucky Tundra (30-Apr) : S learn from McKinney who learns from Hafley who learns from the fans. Guaranteed Super Bowl
Zero2Cool (30-Apr) : could*
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Safeties should learn from Xavier.
dhazer (29-Apr) : And what about grabbing a Gilmore or Howard at CB ? Those are all Free Agents left
dhazer (29-Apr) : out of curiosity do they try and sign Simmons or Hyde to let these young safeties learn from, they can't be day 1 starters.
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : I miss having Sam Shields.
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Not that he's making excuses, just pointing it out
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : That's for dang sure. Make our erratic kicker have no excuse!
packerfanoutwest (28-Apr) : having a great long snapper is gold
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : LaFleur looking like he had some weight. Coachin will do that lol
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : Thanks Mucky and whomever created topcos for each pick!
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : Insane about Kingsley
dfosterf (28-Apr) : Putring it here so Mucky sees it. He was our guy!
dfosterf (28-Apr) : Bowden long snapper Wisconsin. Consensus best LS in college.
dfosterf (28-Apr) : We got Peter Bowde
dfosterf (28-Apr) : I personally interpret that as a partial tear that can be recovered from with rehab
dfosterf (28-Apr) : MLF said Kingsley Enagbare did NOT tear his ACL and did NOT require surgery, and that he is "looking good" for the 2024 season!
beast (28-Apr) : T.O. son signs with the 49ers
Mucky Tundra (28-Apr) : damn those vikings
beast (27-Apr) : UDFA Vikings sign TE – Trey Knox, South Carolina
beast (27-Apr) : Kitchen was all high from Miami, he was more lucky than talented in 2022 and it showed in 2023
beast (27-Apr) : Reportedly Packers have UDFAs Jennings and Jones
beast (27-Apr) : OL – Donovan Jennings, USF OT – Trente Jones, Michigan
TheKanataThrilla (27-Apr) : Interesting draft. A bit shocked that we didn't select an early CB. Definitely have Safety help. Pretty happy overall.
dhazer (27-Apr) : wow the last 2 picks are really stupid and probably will be special teams players Top 10 draft pick next year book it
TheKanataThrilla (27-Apr) : I think he ended up with a terrible RAS score
dhazer (27-Apr) : Anyone know what went on with Kitchens from Florida? At 1 point he was to be the Packers 1st round and he is way down the board now
Martha Careful (27-Apr) : Z, could you please combine my thread with yours please. I obviously did not see it when I Created it
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Re: 'Kool-Aid' McKinstry. Other than Icky Woods, has there ever been a good NFLer with a childish nickname?
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Packers looking to trade up
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Flag?
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Sag?
Nonstopdrivel (26-Apr) : It rhymes with "bag."
beast (26-Apr) : Family? That's Deadpool's F word
Nonstopdrivel (26-Apr) : Not THAT f-word.
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : fuck
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2023 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM
Bears
Sunday, Sep 17 @ 12:00 PM
Falcons
Sunday, Sep 24 @ 12:00 PM
SAINTS
Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:15 PM
LIONS
Monday, Oct 9 @ 7:15 PM
Raiders
Sunday, Oct 22 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Nov 5 @ 12:00 PM
RAMS
Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM
CHARGERS
Thursday, Nov 23 @ 11:30 AM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 3 @ 7:20 PM
CHIEFS
Monday, Dec 11 @ 7:15 PM
Giants
Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM
BUCCANEERS
Sunday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
Panthers
Sunday, Dec 31 @ 7:20 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 7 @ 3:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 14 @ 3:30 PM
Cowboys
Saturday, Jan 20 @ 7:15 PM
49ers
Recent Topics
46m / Packers Draft Threads / beast

1h / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

1h / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

2h / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

7h / Packers Draft Threads / bboystyle

15h / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

3-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

3-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

3-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / go.pack.go.

2-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

2-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

1-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

30-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

29-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

28-Apr / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.