Zero2Cool
8 years ago
Mike McCarthy says "The style points, you can flush that. I’m sick of talking of the negativity that goes on here. We won 10 games. We lost three games, but that’s the game. Denver beat us. That’s the overview of the season. We have a chance to win 11 next week.” and that has to make everyone curious. Sounds like according to the coach, the Packers control the outcome of every game. I'm willing to bet the Lions feel they lost the game far more than the Packers won that last meeting. Hell, the Raiders put themselves 14 in the hole and lost by just 10 so the Raiders could easily say they lost the game too.

Semantics, yes, but I think it's telling that our coach seems to be grappling for excuses instead of solutions.

Also, as I've mentioned a few times over the years that there appears to be some kind of rift between McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers and with the radical changes to the coaching structure recently, I wonder if it's time to clean house from Ted Thompson down the line?

Eliot Wolf is quite (traditionally speaking) young or a General Manager position, but he has some one helluva resume and I wouldn't want him landing with the Lions who according to report(s) has been brought up. I think Wolf would not be afraid to make calculated risks in free agency that could help put this team over the top and hire a staff that caters to Rodgers talents and good lord hire a defensive coordinator that can use Clay Matthews on the edge and bring in a true middle linebacker.

I really liked what I seen out of the Cardinals offense with the shots down the field. I would like to see a 40+ aerial bomb three or four times a game just to keep defenses aware that it might happen.


Update: Ron Wolf, a Hall of Fame GM, once told Peter King  he’d be happy if he could hit .333 in the draft … meaning one of three players he picked would be a direct hit.
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nerdmann
8 years ago

Mike McCarthy says "The style points, you can flush that. I’m sick of talking of the negativity that goes on here. We won 10 games. We lost three games, but that’s the game. Denver beat us. That’s the overview of the season. We have a chance to win 11 next week.” and that has to make everyone curious. Sounds like according to the coach, the Packers control the outcome of every game. I'm willing to bet the Lions feel they lost the game far more than the Packers won that last meeting. Hell, the Raiders put themselves 14 in the hole and lost by just 10 so the Raiders could easily say they lost the game too.

Semantics, yes, but I think it's telling that our coach seems to be grappling for excuses instead of solutions.

Also, as I've mentioned a few times over the years that there appears to be some kind of rift between McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers and with the radical changes to the coaching structure recently, I wonder if it's time to clean house from Ted Thompson down the line?

Eliot Wolf is quite (traditionally speaking) young or a General Manager position, but he has some one helluva resume and I wouldn't want him landing with the Lions who according to report(s) has been brought up. I think Wolf would not be afraid to make calculated risks in free agency that could help put this team over the top and hire a staff that caters to Rodgers talents and good lord hire a defensive coordinator that can use Clay Matthews on the edge and bring in a true middle linebacker.

I really liked what I seen out of the Cardinals offense with the shots down the field. I would like to see a 40+ aerial bomb three or four times a game just to keep defenses aware that it might happen.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Agree about the rift, but I think I'd take Mike over Aaron.

Did anyone else think Aaron purposely rocketed the ball thru Janis's hands?

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
musccy
8 years ago
Yikes, a lot to comment on.

With CM3, of course he belongs outside, but that means Nate Palmer is starting. This isn't Capers' fault. Ted has be woeful at restocking the MLB for years.

Now before we go on a Ted rant, and clearly the WRs are a letdown, who honestly saw this coming? I feel this year has been a perfect storm. You lose Jordy, then people you need to step up like Lacy (gets fat), Davante (becomes mental midget), Abby (hurt much of offseason), Monty...we could go on, you get my point. Its been Murphy's Law.

As for blowing up the ship, this team is 10-4. Few in here are happy, and for good reason, but good Lord, to say we blow everything up because we're winning ugly is asinine.

As far as Nerd's point about Janis - I still think he's a lost puppy out there, but you're not the only person I've heard suggest that. Still should have caught it, but Aaron brought a howitzer to a knife fight on that pass.
Zero2Cool
8 years ago

Yikes, a lot to comment on.

With CM3, of course he belongs outside, but that means Nate Palmer is starting. This isn't Capers' fault. Ted has be woeful at restocking the MLB for years.

Now before we go on a Ted rant, and clearly the WRs are a letdown, who honestly saw this coming? I feel this year has been a perfect storm. You lose Jordy, then people you need to step up like Lacy (gets fat), Davante (becomes mental midget), Abby (hurt much of offseason), Monty...we could go on, you get my point. Its been Murphy's Law.

As for blowing up the ship, this team is 10-4. Few in here are happy, and for good reason, but good Lord, to say we blow everything up because we're winning ugly is asinine.

As far as Nerd's point about Janis - I still think he's a lost puppy out there, but you're not the only person I've heard suggest that. Still should have caught it, but Aaron brought a howitzer to a knife fight on that pass.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



I don't think it's asinine at all to wonder about something, not at all. If I Mark Murphy said "Kevin, Ted and Company's fate is in your hands, make a decision ... NOW!". I would not blow things up, but I'm a wondering kinda guy. I like to think of other ideas, other thoughts rather than be some clown who has a boxed bias with no objectivity. (Barry Sanders excluded, lol)

Something else I wonder about is, do the Packers have too many chiefs on the coaching staff?

I think it's obvious every Packers fan is happy about getting the wins. I do think quite a few are a little concerned that if the offense doesn't get things into gear, it's going to be a short post-season experience. You couple that with the high expectations entering the season, yeah, it's obvious why PASSIONATE fans are pissed off.

Failure to acquire ILB talent, or failure to develop ILB talent? How can justifiably point to one over the other? Cardinals took a Safety and made him their ILB which is what I think Packers were similarly wanting to do with Sean Richardson.

The Chargers blew things up after going 14 - 2 and it worked out grrrreeeaaat!! (sarcasm)


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