texaspackerbacker
9 years ago
I'm disappointed that we drafted another WR, and one with several glaring potential weaknesses at that - lack of top-end speed, a history of injury, and of course that little thing about dropping the ball. I will stop short of bashing Ted until we see more of how this guy turns out and until we see how the rest of the draft goes.

I have said, I'd rather see an extra wideout or two on the field than an extra TE. We now will have six hopefully excellent wideouts. Drafting a WR the second day instead of a TE kinda says the Packer leadership thinks that way too.
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voiceofreason
9 years ago
A scouting report referred to his build as like a greek god, like adonis. he must be a decent athlete.
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all_about_da_packers
9 years ago

Who gets cut,

Abberadris or Janis?

Originally Posted by: Laser Gunns 



Neither, if Packers slot Montgomery at RB. He played some snaps at RB in Stanford, and it wouldn't be unusual to have a 3rd-string RB who barely sees snaps at the position but makes it on to special teams (which is what Dujuan Harris experienced last year).

It might also be intriguing to slot Montgomery in at RB if coaches think / plan to use him in more of a Darren Sproles type role that they've used Cobb in from time-to-time.
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DoddPower
9 years ago
Guy looks like a baller. The Packers are going to be ridiculously deep at wide receiver for the next several seasons . . . as usual. Smart guy, too.
OlHoss1884
9 years ago
I don't think he was drafted to catch passes...I think he was drafted to return kicks, something we need. If he looks good this summer, he'll make the team, but if he's got the dropsies, he gets cut. I would rather have picked up Williams, the TE from MN, but I can live with this pick if it turns into better field position consistently.
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DoddPower
9 years ago

I don't think he was drafted to catch passes...I think he was drafted to return kicks, something we need. If he looks good this summer, he'll make the team, but if he's got the dropsies, he gets cut. I would rather have picked up Williams, the TE from MN, but I can live with this pick if it turns into better field position consistently.

Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 



That may be true at first, but I think this guy can develop into a good WR, too.
RaiderPride
9 years ago

If he looks good this summer, he'll make the team, but if he's got the dropsies, he gets cut.

Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 



Hoss:

He is a top draft pick. He is not getting cut this summer.

If you do not believe me, ask your Brother Adam, Little Joe, Your dad Ben, or even Hop Sing the cook.




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Smokey
9 years ago

Shocked we picked a WR not named Lockett late. Would have expected a TE for effect if we were hitting a Offense boost.

Hope he proves me wrong, but I have to admit this has been a head-scratching night.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



If they hope to make CB's out of Safety's, it would stand to the same reasoning to draft a WR to end up with a Tight End. Put him in the gym / training table, add 25 lbs of muscle and you have a Tight End.
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all_about_da_packers
9 years ago

If they hope to make CB's out of Safety's, it would stand to the same reasoning to draft a WR to end up with a Tight End. Put him in the gym / training table, add 25 lbs of muscle and you have a Tight End.
Next, draft a water-boy and turn him into a ...

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Holy smokes, you may have figured out Ted's plan at ILB: find a waterboy fixated on high-quality H2O, then unleash him on the NFL. The real-life version of the Waterboy movie. If Bobby Boucher's LB play in that movie was any indication, we may actually solve our ILB problems for the next decade! 🤣

In all seriousness, I don't know if Montgomery can add 25 more pounds; dude is already built like no tomorrow. He's at like 6% body fat. Even more muscle packing may literally make him the NFL version of uber-pumped up Aaron Rodgers in the State Farm commercial.

I read a scout's view that Montgomery's build might be a reason why he had trouble at WR this past year. It was suggested he slim down to about 210, instead of being at around 220 as he is now. That scout said he had Montgomery with a first round grade in last year's draft (if he would have declared), when he was around 210 and you saw his quickness and agility.

Edit: Source - see third "AFC Scout". 
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all_about_da_packers
9 years ago
I'll also add what PFF had to say: 


Ty Montgomery is a poor receiver. You don’t want him playing wide out for your team. His hands are poor, featuring some extremely ugly drops over the year. His routes are labored, and he doesn’t seem comfortable with what he is doing at all. So what is there to work with? I think he’s a running back, and a pretty good one, masquerading at receiver. The other bonus with Montgomery is he will be a very useful return man into the bargain.

I have seen him compared to Cordarrelle Patterson, and while I think that’s a pretty good fit, the difference between the two is body type. Patterson is 6-foot-2 and is built and runs like a receiver, so any backfield carries he is given will be occasional. Montgomery is 6-foot at best and 220 pounds. He is built like a runner and does his best work with the ball in his hands, even running between the tackles.

Only four receivers notched more missed tackles forced than Montgomery’s 17, and the lowest number of receptions amongst them had 45 more than the Stanford Cardinal. He may not be viable as a receiver, but hand him the ball as a running back and you might just have something.

Signature Stat: Averaged 12.4 yards per carry on wide receiver runs (end arounds etc), but a respectable 4.8 yards per carry on conventional running back carries.


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