texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
Coaches are MADE by the players they coach. I have a high opinion of Mike McCarthy, but ask yourself where he would be without Aaron Rodgers. I don't like Harbaugh for the same reasons others have stated, but where would he be if Kaepernick didn't fall from the sky and the Niners didn't hit it big with a couple of LBs?

The era of Vince Lombardi type coaches that bring out stuff in players that others can't, that's long gone. You might say what about scheming/innovating/whatever? Anything anybody comes up with that really works good is very quickly adopted in one form or another by just about everybody - both offense and defense.
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musccy
10 years ago

Coaches are MADE by the players they coach. I have a high opinion of Mike McCarthy, but ask yourself where he would be without Aaron Rodgers. I don't like Harbaugh for the same reasons others have stated, but where would he be if Kaepernick didn't fall from the sky and the Niners didn't hit it big with a couple of LBs?
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Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



But that's true of everyone. You can't make chicken salad out of ---. What coach was going to make Cleveland into a playoff team with Richardson traded, and Weeden and Campbell at QB?

There is something to be said for controlling egos, keeping teams consistent, and managing talent. We've seen A.R. blow up on the sidelines but from all other appearances M.M. had A.R. buy into what he sells. I am a coach now and trust me, one of the biggest challenges is keeping my top athletes humble, grounded, and compliant. He's maintained a good locker room and a consistently successful team. I'm not a huge Harbaugh fan, but he did turn that team around overnight after Singletary was let go. We saw the difference Payton made for N.O. this year.

You just said you have a high opinion of Mike, so to some extent I'm preaching to the choir, I'm just saying that even with a great QB or top talent, it's not as easy as it seems. Ask Jim Schwartz.
nerdmann
10 years ago

Coaches are MADE by the players they coach. I have a high opinion of Mike McCarthy, but ask yourself where he would be without Aaron Rodgers. I don't like Harbaugh for the same reasons others have stated, but where would he be if Kaepernick didn't fall from the sky and the Niners didn't hit it big with a couple of LBs?

The era of Vince Lombardi type coaches that bring out stuff in players that others can't, that's long gone. You might say what about scheming/innovating/whatever? Anything anybody comes up with that really works good is very quickly adopted in one form or another by just about everybody - both offense and defense.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Aaron would be Alex Smith. if Mike hadn't been brought aboard to develop him.
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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

Aaron would be Alex Smith. if Mike hadn't been brought aboard to develop him.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



You REALLY think that? I say bullshit. A former TE magically coaching up an already polished QB to be the world's greatest? I don't think so.


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steveishere
10 years ago

Aaron would be Alex Smith. if Mike hadn't been brought aboard to develop him.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Doubt it. Alex Smith doesn't have any confidence making a tough throw. He doesn't have the balls to make a throw into tight coverage or down field often. Rodgers has been making those throws since Butte and that's the largest difference between the two and it's a mentality thing not a coaching thing.
nerdmann
10 years ago

Doubt it. Alex Smith doesn't have any confidence making a tough throw. He doesn't have the balls to make a throw into tight coverage or down field often. Rodgers has been making those throws since Butte and that's the largest difference between the two and it's a mentality thing not a coaching thing.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Didn't look like much in year 1. Year 2 either for that matter.
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steveishere
10 years ago

Didn't look like much in year 1. Year 2 either for that matter.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



How would you know he only threw 30 passes in both years combined in random situations.
DakotaT
10 years ago

So what you are saying is Jimbo is not Packer People.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



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Haven't we been through this enough. If I didn't know better, I'd think you said that just to dig at me.
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mi_keys
10 years ago

So what you are saying is Jimbo is not Packer People.

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No, he's saying Jim's a cunt.
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Haven't we been through this enough. If I didn't know better, I'd think you said that just to dig at me.

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Oh Troy. You know I love you. I hope you know I know that no one can live up to the "Packer People" ideal. But if you get worked up in the process, C'est la vie!
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