Packers should keep an eye on the Terrell Suggs situation· Page 2

nerdmann
Premier Member

10 years ago

Too old. I bet Ted drafts a guy.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

10 years ago

#12

Are we talking about making a trade and basically ASSUMING that $12.4 million cap number? a big no way to that! Or are we talking about Suggs being cut and we sign him for something reasonable, in which case, the question becomes HOW reasonable? and how much does he have left in the tank?

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

Ravens are most likely going to cut Suggs, thus, he will be free to sign with whomever as he does not have to clear waivers.

The Packers already have apprx. 25 mil. committed to the LBr position for 2014, jmho, there is only so much money to go around.

That doesn't include Mike Neal, Francois or Lattimore.

I think Francois is gone, but do think Ted will make an effort to resign Neal and Lattimore.

Neither should break the bank, so those expecting ted to go after a Big Name FA LBr are probably going to be disappointed.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Matthews $11,100,000
Hawk $5,100,000
Brad Jones $4,000,000
Perry $2,045,250

$22,245,250

You get rid of Brad Jones.

Too old. I bet Ted drafts a guy.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Because what the Packers need is MORE young inexperienced guys? While I don't believe Suggs would sign here for a reasonable contract, e.g. 2 year $6 million because he just got a ring and probably wants to cash in for as much as he can get. That being said, his experience is exactly what the Packers defense needs.

mi_keys
Senior Member

10 years ago

#13

Ravens are most likely going to cut Suggs, thus, he will be free to sign with whomever as he does not have to clear waivers.

Matthews $11,100,000
Hawk $5,100,000
Brad Jones $4,000,000
Perry $2,045,250

$22,245,250

You get rid of Brad Jones.

Because what the Packers need is MORE young inexperienced guys? While I don't believe Suggs would sign here for a reasonable contract, e.g. 2 year $6 million because he just got a ring and probably wants to cash in for as much as he can get. That being said, his experience is exactly what the Packers defense needs.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I thought Hawk's cap number was coming down or are you looking at 2013 cap numbers?

According to the below source, Hawk's 2014 cap hit will only be $2.5M.

http://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2013/3/18/4121176/a-j-hawk-contract-details-packers

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buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#14

Originally Posted by: mi_keys

2.5M is the amount of money his cap number dropped in 2014 after redoing his contract.

Originally it would have been 7.6mil, now it will be 5.1mil

Edit: Zero posted this in another thread, I am going to repost it again, solid numbers on every player under contract for 2014.

http://www.spotrac.com/n...ay-packers/cap-hit/2014/

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buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#15

"Zero2Cool;269729]Ravens are most likely going to cut Suggs, thus, he will be free to sign with whomever as he does not have to clear waivers.

Matthews $11,100,000
Hawk $5,100,000
Brad Jones $4,000,000
Perry $2,045,250

$22,245,250

You get rid of Brad Jones."

You think Ted will take a 2m hit on the salary cap?

That is the "dead money" listed for Jones in 2014, I am guessing that means "guaranteed" The Packers will have to pay him 2m whether he is on the roster or not.

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PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#16

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Dead money is what he would count against the cap if he was cut. It is the 2 remaining years of prorated signing bonus moved forward.

So Cutting Jones would result in a net gain of 2 million in cap room.
Cutting Hawk would be a net 1.9 million gain.
Perry and Matthews would both add to the cap by cutting them.

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nerdmann
Premier Member

10 years ago

#17

Ted did sign Jeff Saturday. It's not inconceivable that'd he's make Suggs an offer. Suggs would have to accept it though.

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buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

Basically what I said, it's still a 2m cap hit, that's money that can't be spent on another player.

I'm not sure if that is correct but even if it is, What kind of FA could Ted bring in for 2mil?

No guarantees, they would be better than Jones.

Ted addressed the LBr position last year, Jones was injured, he didn't have his best year, but Ted signed him for a reason.

I think you will find the teams that end up in "cap hell", continually sign players then cut them before their contracts are up.

Hopefully next year there won't be a rash of injuries to the LBr position, and the D-line.
I always read where CM3 would be so much better if The Packers could just find someone who can stay healthy to play the other OLB position.

Well the same can be said about Jones or any of the LBr -positions.

Depending on which Packer FA's Ted decides to bring back, I can see him drafting an ILBr high in the draft.

Hell The Packers aren't going to be able to depend on A.J. Hawk forever, they need to find someone to replace him in the next 2 or 3 years.

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