Zero2Cool
11 years ago
Between Cedric Benson and James Starks, who would you rather be the primary running back for the Packers?

I was mildly let down with Benson against the 49ers, then again, no one runs on them anyway. I recall James Starks having a decent day against them in I think 2010.

I think we'll know more about Benson after the Bears game. If he puts out the same 2 yards per carry, ... I don't want to think about it. And the Bears are usually good against the run too!


Edit, this thread was a fail, lol. What's the problem with the Packers rushing attack? The players? The coach? The scheme? The running back? The lack of dedication to run the ball? Something else?
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play2win
11 years ago
Doesn't matter if our OL doesn't know how to run block. I am really pissed about that. They knew what they were facing, and they did not show up to the fight.

I'll add, Benson should be fine. Starks should be fine if he can ever make his way onto the field. All I know is, we have three more waiting in the wings to not gain any yds because of our poor run blocking, but, at least we are stocked there...
Cheesey
11 years ago
Still, you'd think the Packers would break off at least ONE decent run in a game. And they didn't. NO blocking up front, and no attempt at an outside run. All up the middle for 2 yards.

Benson has a chance to make his old team look bad.....or look great.
Of course with no blocking, no one can make any big gains.
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Porforis
11 years ago
Waaaaay too early to make that determination. Benson needs at least a couple, probably more like 4 starts before we can really get a decent picture of who he is, and I'm not sure this last game counted. The niners are brutal against the run. I didn't see Benson do anything special, but I didn't really see any cuts he could have made or holes he could have run through. We just got destroyed up front.
Pack93z
11 years ago
Benson in between the tackles and Starks outside them.

Not much can be done with contact coming at or behind the line of scrimmage.

The 49ers didn't stop the run last season by accident.
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gbguy20
11 years ago
When are we getting a new offensive line coach? until that happens, who our running back is doesn't matter.
Pack93z
11 years ago

When are we getting a new offensive line coach? until that happens, who our running back is doesn't matter.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Don't hold your breath.. been pleading for that since 2008 at least. Recurring theme..

Ya know what.. I say piss on it. I might walk in this morning and fire Campen and Fonteno and hire a veteran OLine coach this week. The line is in complete disarray, we aren't overly effective in either pass or run block.. go out and hire a veteran line coach to help shore this up as well.

Seriously, this group has been inconsistent for the word go with Campen as the position coach. Why not make a loud statement that enough is enough with the happy horse pucky.

BTW.. this isn't a panic type statement, more so a overdue move that should have been made at the very latest this past offseason.

People complained about Sherman holding onto Rossley too long.. this in my opinion is the same type of deal. Highly regarded or not.. past time to move the hell on.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Yerko
11 years ago
At this point I would just say Benson because he can stay on the field. Our offensive line is quite possibly, behind the Browns, the worst run blocking offensive line in the league. Our best chance is to the right behind Bulaga and Sitton. Saturday is just too old to be able to push the nose tackles around and while TJ Lang might be a good run blocker, Newhouse isn't.

I don't know if any of you caught a few plays, but I felt like there were opportunities for Benson to cut back weak side and instead he put his head down and ran into traffic. Anyone?
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Cheesey
11 years ago
I saw that too. It seems he didn't try to bounce off and at least attempt to go outside.
But it's also try that if you get NO blocking, you won't gain any yards.
I don't know if you can blame the coach. He can't go out and make the blocks FOR them.
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Yerko
11 years ago

I saw that too. It seems he didn't try to bounce off and at least attempt to go outside.
But it's also try that if you get NO blocking, you won't gain any yards.
I don't know if you can blame the coach. He can't go out and make the blocks FOR them.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



These guys are professionals for a reason. I am with you...blaming a coach can only go so far. These are grown men who have done this sufficiently enough throughout their careers to become professionals. If they need additional coaching to know how to run block, there is a good chance they shouldn't be on the field. Even the linemen that are better at one or the other (pass or run block) should be alright.


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