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12 years ago
A few weeks back I stated that there are some "red flags" regarding Vinnie Curry, the DE/OLB from Marshall. I was asked to not disclose them until after April began because they are "sensitive" issues that are causing some "red flags" with Curry.

I spoke to an AFC West scout in my evaluation process about Curry (in February), who I thought had the skill set that could translate nicely to the Packers 3/4 and entice Ted Thompson. The scout (who I have known for many years, trust and has dinner with my family on many occasions) told me that "Curry has some red flags". I asked what they were he replied "Curry is not a smart person, on the field, off the field, in the class room and in the film room. He is the type of kid that you can't trust because he makes poor decisions, both on and off the field. He has had people cover for him and look out for his best interests, but in the NFL, once he gets paid, all bets are off. The fear with our team is he comes in, gets paid and ends up in jail or puts himself in situations that may end up getting suspended or kicked out the NFL."

He told me to ask around to other scouts and sources I have, so I did. I spoke to 3 other scouts for NFL teams and an "independent" scout (from a scouting service) and they all conveyed the same feelings and doubts about Curry.

The prevailing thought is he is NOT a smart player and will struggle to pick up a complex defense (like the Packers run). If he is asked to do anything other then go get the QB he will struggle and won't have much of a career in the NFL. They worry about his decision making off the field, the company he keeps, the places he goes, and if he will continue to play hard when he gets an NFL paycheck.

I do not have a link nor will I reveal my sources. I have no grudge nor do I know Curry and have no reason to make this up. This is what I was told by 5 different scouts (who are sources) and make a living scouting players and have access to information most people do not have. I am not sure if teams or the Packers have taken him off their draft boards. I was told that a prominent "draft expert" will also report this as the draft gets closer.

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Nonstopdrivel
12 years ago
How do you know these scouts are not feeding you disinformation -- or, in other words, bullshit -- to try to drive down the perceived value of players they like in the eyes of other teams?
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Arrigo
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12 years ago

How do you know these scouts are not feeding you disinformation -- or, in other words, bullshit -- to try to drive down the perceived value of players they like in the eyes of other teams?

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Because I have known them for YEARS and when they do ask me to put out a rumor they let me know that it is disinformation. It's part of the trade off, but this one is not disinformation.

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Nonstopdrivel
12 years ago
Good to know, although it does raise another question: That tactic only works if you don't admit when something is disinformation, so how are we supposed to know how much stock to put in your information? :-"
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rabidgopher04
12 years ago
What do you do for a living, Joe? I'm just wondering how you have time for all of this if you don't work in the NFL or for a major media outlet. Thanks for all your good work.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

What do you do for a living, Joe? I'm just wondering how you have time for all of this if you don't work in the NFL or for a major media outlet. Thanks for all your good work.

Originally Posted by: rabidgopher04 



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12 years ago

What do you do for a living, Joe? I'm just wondering how you have time for all of this if you don't work in the NFL or for a major media outlet. Thanks for all your good work.

Originally Posted by: rabidgopher04 



I worked in radio for 10 years and blogged for about 6. I am not in the "media" as of now, instead doing something else to support my family.

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12 years ago

If you're wondering, yes, he likes dogs and long walks on the beach ...

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



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PackerTraxx
12 years ago
I've never been too high on Curry. His 4.98 40 is pretty slow too effectively play OLB and at 266 he is too light for our DE. This coupled with your info makes it pretty obvious we should stay away from him.
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