2011 Starks v Grant: week 1

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

12 years ago

Starks: 12 carries 57 yds, 4.8 (1 TD)
Grant: 9 carries 40 yds, 4.0

I thought Grant looked good, though. Seeing holes, not running into his blockers. Liked what I saw from both. Wouldn't mind seeing more screens.
They throw screens, just usually to the WRs.

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coltonja
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12 years ago

This one two punch worked really well. When Starks was hot McCarthy stayed with him and that made Grant really hungry for the rock. You could tell when he got in he had a little extra motivation. Not that he needed it with him having to prove himself all over again. Kuhn was great on short yardage as well. Great run blocking this week, and I loved Collinsworth giving love to our line (especially Wells). Excited about this side of our offense for sure

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wpr
Preferred Member

12 years ago

Title should be Starks AND Grant. They are on the same team they are not competing against one another.

all_about_da_packers
Senior Member

12 years ago

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Pretty telling that McCarthy said "Starks looked good (couple second pause) running the ball". Missed a blitz pick-up that I'm sure coaches are going to get on him about.

Honestly, I like Starks more and more with each carry. Dude is just so tough. I was actually extremely impressed with on a carry in the second half that went maybe 3 yards, but he got the hand-off and got to the LOS and seemed to stop all of a sudden trying to make the defender miss and within a couple of seconds was running hard. That actually made me yell out "Whoa!" because I have not seen that too often, outside of Adrian Peterson.

Interesting to note that Starks got more carries, and McCarthy said after the game he probably did not give Starks the carries he deserved. I'm guessing going forward we see Grant still start, but Stark is going to be getting most of the touches.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

12 years ago

I don't think James Starks will have a carry for more than 40 yards. I do think James Starks is a better runner and gets more yards consistently than Ryan Grant.

James looks like he has a burst through the hole, where Ryan Grant seems to be kind of sluggish going into the hole.

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

12 years ago

I thought Starks did well in pass pro. He's not a Bjack who just specializes in that, and he's quite young yet too. In a way, he's still a rookie, because he hasn't been activated for a full 16 games yet. Plus he missed this offseason due to the lockout. He's doing fine, and he's just gonna get better at that stuff.
Nice to see those FB dive plays with Kuhn work. Now that we actually have threats at RB, they gotta cover other shit, they can't just assume Kuhn's gonna get it.

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Silentio
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12 years ago

I thought Starks did well in pass pro.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I hope the coaches don't tell him they thought he did well in pass protection. I counted two sacks given up by Starks. He did fine, all things considered, but he must improve in the area. I have faith that he will do so as the season goes on. The dude looked like a stud in the running game and it is great to have a nice one two punch in the backfield. The Packers won't be telegraphing the run with one back or the other in the backfield, because both guys seem to be able to get yards, and most importantly to get yards and 1st downs in key situations.

edit...
The yards per carry is more interesting than the pure stats, IMO:

Starks = 4.7
Grant = 4.4

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evad04
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12 years ago

Starks looked great running the ball tonight. I'm really liking the rotation we have. It was particularly fantasmic to see us converting on 2nd/3rd and short situations. That said, Starks was bad in pass protection. That is clearly the biggest weakness to his game and he needs to improve.

P.S. in what universe is 40/9 = 4?

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Silentio
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12 years ago

P.S. in what universe is 40/9 = 4?

Originally Posted by: evad04

In a universe where you fib to make your favorite back look better than the guy you shit all over during the preseason.

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gbguy20
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#10

I hope the coaches don't tell him they thought he did well in pass protection. I counted two sacks given up by Starks. He did fine, all things considered, but he must improve in the area. I have faith that he will do so as the season goes on. The dude looked like a stud in the running game and it is great to have a nice one two punch in the backfield. The Packers won't be telegraphing the run with one back or the other in the backfield, because both guys seem to be able to get yards, and most importantly to get yards and 1st downs in key situations.

edit...
The yards per carry is more interesting than the pure stats, IMO:

Starks = 4.7
Grant = 4.4

Originally Posted by: Silentio

Sample size is far too small for that to be relevant yet.

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