Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago
This kind of reminds me of wine connoisseurs. Yeah, it has the right bouquet and the right color, is tart and has a oaky after taste blah blah blah. But does it taste good? If I like the taste of a $2.00 bottle of wine better, then I don't care.

We can do a preliminary assessment and so what if it isn't accurate enough. The only way to be really accurate is using hindsight.

Grading the draft now is just a prediction of how you think the players will turn out. Given that it is just a prediction, we accept the limitations of guessing what the future holds.

Yes, waiting 3 years will give us a better and more accurate assessment, but to be 100% accurate, you have to wait until all the players drafted are actually retired. So 3 years isn't perfect either. But we accept those limitations in our enjoyment of the team.

It is as relevant as the Mocks, because it is fun to speculate. Which is half the fun of being a fan and half the reason we are even on this forum talking about the team.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
doddpower
13 years ago

This kind of reminds me of wine connoisseurs. Yeah, it has the right bouquet and the right color, is tart and has a oaky after taste blah blah blah. But does it taste good? If I like the taste of a $2.00 bottle of wine better, then I don't care.

We can do a preliminary assessment and so what if it isn't accurate enough. The only way to be really accurate is using hindsight.

Grading the draft now is just a prediction of how you think the players will turn out. Given that it is just a prediction, we accept the limitations of guessing what the future holds.

Yes, waiting 3 years will give us a better and more accurate assessment, but to be 100% accurate, you have to wait until all the players drafted are actually retired. So 3 years isn't perfect either. But we accept those limitations in our enjoyment of the team.

It is as relevant as the Mocks, because it is fun to speculate. Which is half the fun of being a fan and half the reason we are even on this forum talking about the team.

"Dexter_Sinister" wrote:



Great post. Would have been hard to say any better. It amazes me the rules some try to impose on fans of sports, music, food, women, etc. etc. It someone enjoys doing something, they're more than likely going to do it regardless of what others say, especially such a harmless and overall insignificant thing such as draft grades. I suppose it's a nice exercise in futility. I know I don't have time for such things though, unless of course someone was paying me. :icon_smile:
Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago
All such discussions by fans/media about the teams they enjoy is are an exercise in futility.

It doesn't make it any less fun. Or any less relevant.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

People read draft grades, so the sites give out draft grades. If people didn't care what others though about their team, the traffic wouldn't be there then.

"porky88" wrote:



I'm hoping you do a grade on the each of the Packers picks and share it with us. I'm looking forward to it.
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Greg C.
13 years ago
I agree with most others that this is much ado about nothing. I just like to read people's takes on the draft, if they sound like they are well-informed. I don't care whether or not they give the draft a grade. A grade is just a way to tell at a glance how well someone thinks a team filled its needs. It's no big deal, and everyone knows that it is to be taken with a great big grain of salt.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
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http://drafthq.nbcsports.com/team_picks.aspx 

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G.M. Ted Thompson killed it, as usual. All of Green Bay's first five picks brought value, and at least four fit into positions that needed depth. Derek Sherrod will be a starter by year two. Randall Cobb is incredibly versatile and draws Percy Harvin comparisons. Alex Green is highly underrated. Davon House has the size-speed combo of a starter. D.J. Williams is "move" tight end insurance in case Jermichael Finley leaves in 2012 free agency. Don't be shocked if Lawrence Guy or Ricky Elmore develops into a major contributor. Ryan Taylor was UNC's special teams captain in 2008 and 2010.


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Rockmolder
13 years ago
Walter Football 

2011 NFL Draft Grades:

Ted Thompson is one of the elite general managers in the NFL, so it's not shocking that he pieced together one of the top 2011 NFL Draft classes.

With his first two picks, Thompson improved Aaron Rodgers' pass protection and gave his quarterback an intriguing weapon to work with. Later, Thompson found help on defense with great values like Davon House, Ricky Elmore and Lawrence Guy.

The only selection I didn't like was Alex Green. I'm not saying Green is going to suck or anything, but running backs are really a dime a dozen, so you can obtain a quality back at any round in the NFL Draft. I would have rather seen Thompson find a front-seven player at the bottom of Round 3.

Having said that, this grade is still an A+ because of the multiple trade-downs that Thompson orchestrated. Thompson just flat out ripped off a couple of teams during Draft Weekend.

Overall 2011 NFL Draft Grade given on 5/1/11: A+

PackerTraxx
13 years ago
Dex, I like your comment. It's all part of being a fan. You have the power to agree or not, partake or not, read or not, watch or not etc. I like most things pertaining to the draft, I have zero interest in fantasy football.

The most important thing in football, to me, we did last year - win the Super Bowl. Those are some of my choices, each person can make their own. That's part of the fun of being a fan.
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago
Thanks. I hope I didn't come off too strong and preachy.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
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