zombieslayer
13 years ago


With all due respect there were many people "Here" on this great site that bitched about him getting a roster spot, his play in his first 8 games, and such... in the game room chat, as well as in posts.

I do not think I need to go back and do a site search to throw dirt here.

Fact is... He is and has become a great player. Good for Ted, bad for The Texans. Let's not sit here and act like we all knew it as soon as the Packers picked him up.

Fact is I thought it was a waste of a roster spot to give it to a player who was not drafted. Only because HE WAS NOT DRAFTED. I reckon I had confidence that if 32 GM's passed on this guy why give him a roaster spot.

But then again... I obviously am not Ted.

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I don't think I was one of them. I think the only one I had beef was with were certain members of our OL when Aaron was getting killed. I've defended Nick Barnett and AJ Hawk, the latter of whom is finally living up to his draft pick slot. I've defended Ryan Grant when people were glad he got injured so Jackson could have a chance (careful what you wish for). I've also been one of James Jones' biggest defenders. I'm still convinced Jones will be our next Donald Driver. I'm pretty sure Mike McCarthy thinks the same.
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porky88
13 years ago
Cullen Jenkins and James Jones are who I would start with. Although, I believe Jenkins could have the franchise tag coming in his future. The Packers tagged Ryan Pickett last year, so they could ensure they have extra time to workout a contract. I think they'll do the same with Jenkins.

I suspect they'll workout a deal with Desmond Bishop next and then turn to James Jones.

Also, Josh Sitton deserves a pay raise sooner rather than later. I think his deal runs through 2012. The guy has been playing as well as anyone on the roster. He is the one offensive lineman the Packers cannot let walk away, so it wouldn't be a bad idea to consider upping his pay within the next year.
dfosterf
13 years ago
NFP- Brandt; Opportunity knocked, Tramon answered 

New deal rewards a true feel-good story Andrew Brandt
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Note: Part 2 of the CBA series is coming soon; I wanted to comment on a contract extension from yesterday for a player I knew and admired at the Packers.

It certainly came as no surprise that the Green Bay Packers came to terms on a four-year extension with cornerback Tramon Williams this week. Williams was five games away from being an unrestricted free agent at a high impact position in a year where -- if there is a new Collective Bargaining Agreement -- many teams may be coming out of their spending hibernation.

This guy can play!

Williams arrived in Green Bay to sign with our practice squad after being released by the Texans almost exactly four years ago today, on November 29, 2006. I remember hearing about him from our scouts soon after his arrival: he was smooth, had good ball skills, great rotation in his hips, and simply This guy can play!

When players came in to sign their contracts, even those on the practice squad, I would always notice demeanor. Many players come in with some anger or entitlement, especially after being released by another team. Tramon was grateful to the Texans for the opportunity and humbled to be a part of the Packers, even as a practice squad player.

And Williams developed as a player as well. The more the players and coaches were around him the more they liked him as a player and person. And when preparation met opportunity with the injury to starter Al Harris last year, Williams had a chance to be a full time starter. He has taken full advantage of the opportunity and excelled in that role to the point of being mentioned as a Pro Bowler this year and allowing the Packers to release longtime fixture Harris.

The Packers had to act with Williams before he hit an open market in March -- assuming there is a market in March -- that would have paid Williams far more money than the Packers would pay, and more than he is getting now. Williams' leverage point was about to skyrocket, but he chose the security and comfort of the team that gave him a chance as opposed to seeing what would be behind Door #2 in March.

CBA coming?

Despite all the talk about deals not getting done due to the impending labor uncertainty, this was a deal that was going to get done and was in the works for a while.

And it comes from the only NFL team required to "show its books", as the Packers are public, during a time when the NFLPA has been unsuccessfully requesting/demanding/crying that all NFL teams open their financial statements to them. Also, the message from the Packers financial report, echoed by NFL officials, is that player costs are outpacing team revenues in a way that is not sustainable.

Despite those comments, the Packers have extended Charles Woodson's contract, with $33 million through 2012, and now that of Tramon's. It is interesting to note that despite most teams' talk of labor uncertainty preventing action on the player contract front, Packers CEO Mark Murphy has been sitting in on many negotiation sessions with the union and (presumably) authorized the Packers to spend these tens of millions of dollars despite the labor uncertainty. A sign of progress on the CBA? Perhaps.

Number high, but could have been much higher

His deal is strong but, as noted above, not as strong as it could have been as a free agent. Williams will make an additional $11.1 million this year: $6 million in bonus and $5.1 million in additional salary. He'll make $3.5 in bonuses and salary in 2011 and $5.1 million in bonuses and salary in 2012, giving him approximately $20 million in new money over the next two-plus years. The deal also provides approximately $18 million in 2013 and 2014, although I give little credence to non-guaranteed numbers beyond 2012 at this point.

And as all Packer veteran contracts have been structured for many years, the deal contains (1) very little Cap acceleration should the Packers terminate Williams -- his contract, not him -- after 2011; (2) large per-game roster bonuses each year (up to $300,000) for staying injury-free; and (3) large workout bonuses (averaging $250,000 per year) each year, starting in 2011, for participating in 85% of the team's offseason workout program.

The question for Williams and his agent -- also named Williams (Rodney) -- was whether to turn down over $20 million between now and the end of 2012 for a bigger deal and it would have been a bigger deal -- in what they hope to be an active market in 2011. Their answer was to take what was in front of them rather than wait for what might have been.

Cinderella lives

Tramon Williams is a shining example of what can happen in the NFL to a player that no one wanted. Signed as an undrafted free agent by Houston and cut at the end of training camp, the Packers gave him a chance three months after that release to show what he could do on the practice squad. While most practice squad players wash out at the bottom of rosters after a year or two, Williams flourished. And he has made the Packers proud.

Congratulations to a true feel-good story named Tramon Williams. We need more like him.

PackerTraxx
13 years ago
I don't remember if I said anything abourt Tramon in the past, but he has become a better player than I thought he would be. I would think part of the consideration for his new contract is the fact that he is overplaying his old contract this year. It gives him some immediate gratification for that.

Congradulations to Tramon. Hope he becomes even better.
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Greg C.
13 years ago
I don't think the Houston Texans should feel too bad. Players change. Tramon probably just wasn't a good player when they had him, and there was no way to know how he would develop. It happens sometimes. Kurt Warner is the most famous example. The Packers had him when he was a nobody, and they cut him.
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13 years ago

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I just found out how to post pictures, had to do it.

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macbob
13 years ago

I've defended Nick Barnett and AJ Hawk, the latter of whom is finally living up to his draft pick slot.

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Zombie-

I've been thinking the exact same thing. I've been thinking since the middle of last season that AJ's game has stepped up a couple of notches. Don't know if it was injury, etc, before. But I've been thinking the last few weeks that I'm satisfied.
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