jbshell04
14 years ago
One thing I have noticed this year is Macs liberal use of the red hanky. While I have looked I have not clearly seen a time B n W when he should not have thrown it.(Cept in Dallas game lol) I do feel that they should be used conservatively.
It just seems when used if the offense is clicking along it breaks the flow of the game and they tend to spit and sputter afterwards.
Thoughts observations.
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nathaniel
14 years ago
He seems to be using his challenges mainly on bigger plays, so I don't think it would change the flow of the offense too much. It gives them time to prepare for whatever the outcome will be. I cringe everytime McCarthy pulls that red flag out of his pocket. Even when it seems at the time like it's a sure thing, like Jennings' TD (or non-TD. I still need to have that one explained to me.)
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
You just said a lot of very vague things but didn't provide any examples. Examples would be appreciated.
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Cheesey
14 years ago
Well, if it's an important play, you HAVE to challenge if you think it might go your way. Better to do that then lose a big play.
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jbshell04
14 years ago
Well I did say it seemed like he was. Throwing a lot of challenges out there. As for examples the last two games once the challenge flag was thrown and the challenge lost the team seemed to ebb or trend down. Prolly just coinkidinks. On the radio broad cast they refered to the fact that Mac had in the neighbhorhood of 25 challenges with like 11 succesful or something. Decent percentage but it is a lot of them.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
lol I think we might be the most unhappy fans of a 9 plus win team with three games to go.
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TheEngineer
14 years ago
No, I don't, and here's why:

Challenges only occur on negative plays for the Packers. You wouldn't challenge a play if you just scored a long TD run or TD bomb from Rodgers.

McCarthy only seems to challenge the big plays - TD drops, TD catches for the other team (although that one he challenged in Baltimore shouldn't have been), fumbles, etc, like most coaches do. I don't think he's called any for rudimentary down and distance calls. Calling a timeout gives your offense or defense time to recuperate after having possibly given up a big play. That gives them time to reset and come back. If you win the challenge, that's even more of a momentum swing and confidence boost.

Whether or not in reality it breaks the flow of the offense or defense, I cannot say since I haven't paid particular attention to efficiency after a challenge. But hey, sometimes we wouldn't even have an offense to question if it weren't for some challenges (e.g. Grant's fumble).
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istanbulpacker
14 years ago
Don't forget the whole "challenge so that the other team scores a safety" we had a few games back. Odd one there to PUT points on the board for the other team.
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TheEngineer
14 years ago
Or give them the ball at the 1 yard line? Back when our defense was still questionable? I know what I'd take.
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coltonja
14 years ago

Or give them the ball at the 1 yard line? Back when our defense was still questionable? I know what I'd take.

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+1 yeah def. agree with Engineer here. Even if they had the ball on tghe one they would have gotten a field goal or likely a TD. Why would he not have challenged that?
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