The Pack rocks in Fox-Tox

Pack93z
Select Member Topic Starter

14 years ago

I truly wonder how such a ranking has held in correlation with the Superbowl participants each year.

Does a truly explosive offense hold serve or does it require a sense of balance on a yearly basis?

And what impacts does it have on a defense over the course of a year when the offense attacks quickly, shifting the possession time back upon the defense?

I remain in my thinking that offensive balance holds more relevance combined with solid defensive play.

The Pack rocks in Fox-Tox

Posted: Dec. 2, 2009

One of the pro football statistics that has caught our fancy this season is the one former coach Brian Billick, now a Fox game analyst, has helped popularize.

Billick orders teams by a metric he calls "Fox-Tox Ranking," which combines explosive-play differential with turnover differential. An explosive play is one of 20 yards or more. Teams are then ordered from top to bottom in terms of the results from adding the two differentials.

Billick contends there is a correlation between teams that have high rankings in Fox-Tox and those that get into the playoffs.

Through Week 12 in the National Football League season, the Packers are ranked fourth in this category, with a Fox-Tox of 24. They have created 46 explosive plays but given up 39 for a net gain of seven.

By way of comparison, the San Diego Chargers are ranked just ahead of the Packers in Fox-Tox with 25. San Diego has created about the same number of explosive plays on offense as the Packers (45), but their defense has given up just 28, 11 fewer than the Packers.

However, what makes Green Bay special in this calculation is its turnover ratio, which is plus-17.

Here are the Fox-Tox leaders through Week 12:

1. Indianapolis 31

2. New Orleans 30

3. San Diego 25

4. Green Bay 24

5. Minnesota 22

6. Philadelphia 17

7. Dallas 15

8. New England 15

All eight of those teams are in the playoff hunt.

The division leaders not in the top eight in Fox-Tox are the 7-4 Arizona Cardinals and the 8-3 Cincinnati Bengals.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Wanna join the discussion?! Login to your PACKERSHOME forum account or Register a new forum account

yooperfan
Veteran Member

14 years ago

Every Team thet has been ranked in the top 4 after week 12 in fox tox has made it to their respective conference championship game.

JUST KIDDING, alright!

This is something new that may or may not mean anything I guess.

djcubez
Senior Member

14 years ago

No offense but this is just another obvious stat. Teams that have bigger plays on offense win more games. Teams that produce more turnovers win more games. Teams that give up the ball lose more games. Teams that give up big plays lose more games. It's pretty damn obvious I don't understand why you have to make it into a statistic and say "OMG look this stat predicts who makes the playoffs."

CaliforniaCheez
Member

14 years ago

This is just repackage stuff from grandpa's football.

Everyone for decades has known turnover ratio has a high correlation to wins (except Jay Cutler).

In a parity league one big play can make a huge difference.

Just like some of those old Single Wing plays are now called "Wild Cat", The same things known for over 60 years of football are now called Fox Tox.

Watch some pre World War II football films and some plays have never changed, just the names.

blank

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

Martha Careful (9h) : Z, could you please combine my thread with yours please. I obviously did not see it when I Created it

Martha Careful (12h) : Re: 'Kool-Aid' McKinstry. Other than Icky Woods, has there ever been a good NFLer with a childish nickname?

Martha Careful (13h) : Packers looking to trade up

Martha Careful (16h) : Flag?

Martha Careful (16h) : Sag?

Nonstopdrivel (16h) : It rhymes with "bag."

beast (26-Apr) : Family? That's Deadpool's F word

Nonstopdrivel (26-Apr) : Not THAT f-word.

Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : fuck

beast (25-Apr) : 49ers are Cap Tight

beast (25-Apr) : Fuck

Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : Kanata, I will be when I'm on my lunch later

TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : Love you NSD

Nonstopdrivel (25-Apr) : Huh. I guess the F-word is censored in this fan shout.

Nonstopdrivel (25-Apr) : Anyone who doesn't hang out in the chat probably smokes pole.

TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : GoPackGo Thinking CB is the pick tonight

TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : Anyone hanging out in the chat tonight?

Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : whoa...49ers have had trade conversations about both Deebo Samuel and Brandon Aiyuk

Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : I hope they take a Punter at 9th overall. Be bold!

Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : I may end up eating those words but I think they need a lot more talent then their 4 picks can provide

Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : I really hope they stand pat and Draft a WR

Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : @DMRussini

Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : The Chicago Bears are very open for business at 9 and telling teams they are ready to move for the right price, per source

buckeyepackfan (24-Apr) : Lions extend Penei Soul 4yrs - 112mil

buckeyepackfan (24-Apr) : Lions extend St. Brown 4 years 120mil and

Mucky Tundra (24-Apr) : Now look, trading up to 13 to take a TE might not seem like a good idea later but it will be later!

dfosterf (24-Apr) : (Your trade up mock post)

dfosterf (24-Apr) : Mucky- The only thing fun to watch would be me flipping the f out if Gute goes up to 13 and grabs Brock Bowers, lol

beast (24-Apr) : DT Byron Murphy II, Texas... whom some believe is the next Aaron Donald (or the closest thing to Donald)

Zero2Cool (24-Apr) : What? And who?

Mucky Tundra (24-Apr) : *sad Mucky noises*

Mucky Tundra (24-Apr) : @JoeJHoyt Murphy said he’s been told he won’t slide past pick No. 16.

wpr (23-Apr) : Just about time to watch Sonny Weaver stick it to the seahags. I never get tired of it.

Martha Careful (23-Apr) : *game plan

Martha Careful (23-Apr) : IMHO, not even close. He is not a guy you game play around.

Mucky Tundra (23-Apr) : is Aiyuk worth a 1st rounder?

Zero2Cool (23-Apr) : 49ers are seeking a 1st round pick in exchange for WR Brandon Aiyuk

Mucky Tundra (22-Apr) : Based on Gutes comments, now I don't feel as silly having 13 picks in my mock the other day

Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : Zach Wilson to Broncos.

Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : Gutekunst says he'd love to have 13 or 14 picks. He's trading back huh lol

beast (22-Apr) : Someday we'll have a draft betting scandal

beast (21-Apr) : Sometimes looking extremely amazing, sometimes looking extremely lost

beast (21-Apr) : I haven't looked into the QBs, but some have suggested Maye has some of the most extremely inconsistent tape they've seen

beast (21-Apr) : Well it also sounds like Patriots are listening to trade offers, not that seriously considering any, but listening means they aren't locked

Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : Maye needs to be AFC

Mucky Tundra (21-Apr) : Not liking the idea of the Vikings getting Maye

Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : Vikings HC joked that he may or may not have sent flowers to Bob Kraft. That's where rumor came from.

beast (21-Apr) : Can't tell if this is real or BS, but some rumors about a possible Patriots/Vikings trade for #3 overall

dfosterf (21-Apr) : One playbook to my knowledge. I was shooting for facetious.

beast (20-Apr) : I'm not sure they have different playbooks for different OL positions, and Dillard run blocking is supposedly worse than his pass blocking..

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2023 Packers Schedule

Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM

Bears

38 - 20

Sunday, Sep 17 @ 12:00 PM

Falcons

24 - 25

Sunday, Sep 24 @ 12:00 PM

SAINTS

18 - 17

Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:15 PM

LIONS

20 - 34

Monday, Oct 9 @ 7:15 PM

Raiders

13 - 17

Sunday, Oct 22 @ 3:25 PM

Broncos

17 - 19

Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

10 - 24

Sunday, Nov 5 @ 12:00 PM

RAMS

20 - 3

Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM

Steelers

19 - 23

Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM

CHARGERS

23 - 20

Thursday, Nov 23 @ 11:30 AM

Lions

29 - 22

Sunday, Dec 3 @ 7:20 PM

CHIEFS

27 - 19

Monday, Dec 11 @ 7:15 PM

Giants

22 - 24

Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM

BUCCANEERS

20 - 34

Sunday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM

Panthers

33 - 30

Sunday, Dec 31 @ 7:20 PM

Vikings

33 - 10

Sunday, Jan 7 @ 3:25 PM

BEARS

17 - 9

Sunday, Jan 14 @ 3:30 PM

Cowboys

48 - 32

Saturday, Jan 20 @ 7:15 PM

49ers

21 - 24