dhazer
14 years ago

You want to know what is scary?

Pack93z and myself, when we get worked up about something...

Almost scarily ahead of the curve, fanbase-wise.

Step 1: One of us starts bitching about/ discussing something.

Step 2: Naysayers and "tut-tut" folk weigh in semi-condescendingly.

Step 3: What we were bitching about / discussing comes to pass.

Step 4: Naysayers open up a thread talking about precisely what we were talking about, long after our thread has died, with some "I told you so" crap thrown in for good measure.

It's a trend. :thumbleft:

"dfosterf" wrote:




Oh Stop i have been bitching since the 1st day i came on this board so all you guys are behind the times 😛
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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dfosterf
14 years ago
I am pre-bitching Dave, that is different.
dyeah_gb
14 years ago
I think we have to wait until game 8 to start having a discussion about future coaches. If we are 5 and 3 by week 9 with a win against the queens at home, I think that the coaches will have put us in a pretty good position.

The problem is that we have such glaring flaws. Our O line has singlehandedly put three DEs in the top 5 in overall sacks



1 Antwan Odom, DE Sacks = 8
Elvis Dumervil, DE Sacks = 8
3 Jared Allen, DE Sacks = 6.5
4 Dwight Freeney, DE Sacks = 5
5 Adewale Ogunleye, DE Sacks = 4.5

Now two ways to look at the failure of preparing our o-line are that we look so bad because we have faced such menacing defenses. Alternatively we can say that we have no talent at Oline and leadership has failed in preparing this team. I think it is both. The next two games will be really important in evaluating how bad our o line is. If it turns out that it is really THAT bad, heads will need to roll.
The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool - R. Feynman
dfosterf
14 years ago
I devoted an entire subject to that offensive line and why I felt it was a failure. Pack93z weighed in as best as possible, because he had restricted himself to certain limitations, based on his own frustrations in that area.

Not a post. Not a thread. An entire subject, consisting of 5 full threads, including technique, personnel decisions, what it does to the running game, passing game, etc.

I also dedicated entire threads to corrections of this via the draft, with some additional bitching about some of the REAL FA aquisitions we should have been making, going way back to when just about EVERYONE else was whining about friggin' Moss, then friggin' Gonzales, etc.

I understood and understand the need to fix d holes, got on board the Raji train (because of the Bustin' factor, and developmental time, etc.)

I was on Oher guy, hell, I can point everyon to threads where I advocated dedicating the ENTIRE FRIGGIN" DRAFT to fixing our o-line, even knowing that is totally impracticable, but as a way to assign my level of discontent.

My point is that I would like my dissatisfaction taken in the context of someone that HAS been patient, that sees the potential of a football team being squandered, and thinks that NFL level personnelmen and coaches should have seen what I saw, especially in light of my limited information.

That limited information historically has made me forgiving. I now have more information.

I am MOST frustrated by the seeming lack of understanding of just how urgent these failures by our staff to address them is being taken by the staff itself. This team should have been on two-a-days. I don't give a rat's ass for any pre-season plans for rest, giving these clowns time to recover, get away from it all, etc. Fuck 'em. They are underachieving pampered assholes.

No one is safe.

No one.

I want someone here that will LIGHT A [strike]GOD-damned[/strike] FIRE under my players...MM has not proven that he can do that. I LIKE him (and Ted), and wish them success, but they have to SHOW ME they take it more seriously than seems evident... NOT relative to me as a zealous fan, but relative to the context of being a head coach and GM in the NFL.
Gravedigga
14 years ago

What only four games and a .500 record can do to a fanbase...

"The_Green_Ninja" wrote:



it has more to do with the Vikings beat down and not the 500 record. all this madness will end if the p;ack win the next game. Then, everone will be talking superbowl again.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Always liked Cowher, I just don't see it happening.
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Gravedigga
14 years ago

Always liked Cowher, I just don't see it happening.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



capers & cowher used to be together in pitt right?
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Always liked Cowher, I just don't see it happening.

"Gravedigga" wrote:



capers & cowher used to be together in pitt right?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

Yes sir. But Cowher wants to coach on the east coast from what I heard.
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dfosterf
14 years ago

Always liked Cowher, I just don't see it happening.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



capers & cowher used to be together in pitt right?

"Gravedigga" wrote:

Yes sir. But Cowher wants to coach on the east coast from what I heard.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



They ain't got no frozen tundra there. I would be willing to bet that the kind of place it is, the kind of fanbase that exists...the blue-collar, football-centric place, the ownership/ management structure....This kind of thing would appeal to a Bill Cowher.

I have told my fellow members here that Pennsylvania is a lot like Wisconsin, except with some hills. I mean that. Bill would see that also.

His level of control would be the issue with most teams, as in his relationship to the owner. This is why I mentioned that BILL would decide if Ted stays or goes.
Zero2Cool
14 years ago
From things I've read about and heard Cowher say, just do not see him landing in GB. I think he'd be my number one choice though.
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