Greg C.
14 years ago
I give porky credit for sensing that the Packers were due for a letdown. I didn't see this coming at all. Although I expected the defense to come down to earth a little (boy, did they ever!), I did not think the offense would lay an egg two weeks in a row.

We now have a trend with this offense, and especially with the offensive line, and it's a very bad trend. In the preseason, they played a total of four quarters, and played very well, but now we've seen eight quarters of mostly poor play from the offense in the regular season. That includes making the Cincinnati Bengals' defensive line look like the New York Giants.
blank
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
I could have sworn it was Peyton's rookie year, but you guys are right, it was the year that the Packers went 13-3 to lead the league and the Colts went 3-13, so it must have been 1997. They would also go 3-13 in 1998 before going 13-3 in 1999, the biggest single-season turnaround in NFL history to that point. Interesting to think how recently the Colts were a pathetic team, before going on an unprecedented run of 12-win seasons.
UserPostedImage
dhazer
14 years ago
What i don't understand is all the panic going on, as i have pointed out before the game that Cinci has a very good defense that ranked i believe in the top 10 last year. The offense was bad because they were playing with a 3rd string qb and Benson was actually a bright spot when he started i believe in week 6 or 7 and rushed for 747 with a 3.5 ypc. Now is everyone going to claim us king again next week when we play a very weak offense in the Rams? The Bengals had a 4-11-1 season and we were 6-10 that isn't much of a difference in teams really.

edit: did the research they were #12 in yds per game and they had over 1000 defensive plays. giving up an average of 5.1 yds per play which is tied for 10th,


this year there at 13th with a 5.6 yds per play.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
UserPostedImage
ILikeThePackers39
14 years ago

I think the position is if this becomes a theme of sorts for the season.. I agree no one is in jeapody currently.. but I highly expect us to be working out some tackles in the very near future.

And Greg.. I agree we are in a bind on the blind side tackle... we gambled this offseason and came up short at this point.

"pack93z" wrote:



Personally, I want them to be working some tackles out TODAY.

Jobs at stake? Right. Tackle. Now. And don't bore me with "well, there's nothing out there now", because I don't care - you didn't get the help that was needed when there was a pool of talent from which to draw, so now you'll have to figure out a way to pull it out of your ass, Teddy.

Now, do you fire anyone after game 2? Nope? End of the season? Depends on games 3-16. There is a LOT of talent on the offensive side of the ball, and that talent is currently being wasted behind an embarrassingly bad line.

Must. Be. Fixed.

Bright spot: Like Hazer, I think Cincy is a better team than people think - and I do think their D is improved. They didn't roll into Lambeau with any respect, but that wasn't a fluke. Our team just wasn't prepared, simple as that.
blank
zombieslayer
14 years ago


Personally, I want them to be working some tackles out TODAY.

Jobs at stake? Right. Tackle. Now. And don't bore me with "well, there's nothing out there now", because I don't care - you didn't get the help that was needed when there was a pool of talent from which to draw, so now you'll have to figure out a way to pull it out of your ass, Teddy.

Now, do you fire anyone after game 2? Nope? End of the season? Depends on games 3-16. There is a LOT of talent on the offensive side of the ball, and that talent is currently being wasted behind an embarrassingly bad line.

Must. Be. Fixed.

Bright spot: Like Hazer, I think Cincy is a better team than people think - and I do think their D is improved. They didn't roll into Lambeau with any respect, but that wasn't a fluke. Our team just wasn't prepared, simple as that.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:



Looking back at it, I think the thing that killed us yesterday was our OL, most of all. We were on the field for only 26 minutes, and that wore out our D. The sacks were drive killers, then of course MM's playcalling was suspect. What happened to our WCO from only a year ago? It could have compensated for our horrible OL.

And I agree. I want a Tackle, and I don't want to hear any excuses. No Tackles out there is NOT a valid excuse. That's about as stupid as saying (assuming one is single) there are no good women/men out there and you've looked everywhere. Or there are no good stocks to buy. Or there's no good music written today. It's because we need to look harder. Simple as that.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
buckeyepackfan
14 years ago
I mentioned a couple of times last week that The Bengals were pretty good on defense, it was their offense that was pethatic last year due to injuries and suspensions.

I hate to agree with dhazer, but not really, everybody had us as an elite team after pre-season.

Again it just goes to show how much pre-seson games mean(nothing).

I'm seeing the same vanilla, predictable offense that was used last year.
How many times are we going to run the ball up the middle on 1st down?
then when that doesn't work, you are at 2nd and long and now a team is pretty much one-dimensional.

I hate to go back to 2007, but That Packer team had no running game the first 7 weeks of the season and still managed to win games.

WEST COAST OFFENSE!!!! Set up the run with the pass!!!! Spread these teams out, short dump offs, quick slants, go deep once in awhile, make a defense respect your passing game then the run will work.

The guys on the roster are the ones the GM and HC decided were their best options, if Aaron Rodgers doesn't have time for 5 or 7 step drop, do something else to create that time.

The big difference in this year and last is the defense, but you cannot expect a defense to be on the field for extended lengths of time, without giving up points.

Reality is The Packers are 1-1, they lost a game to an AFC team, could have been worse, could have been a divisional or conference loss.

IMHO Mike McCarthy and Ted Thompson need to make it happen this year or they both will be in trouble.

I will go as far as to say if The Packers go 2-6 or 3-5, Dom Capers will be the new interim HC at mid-season. If there is no turn around and The Packers finish below :500 Ted Thompson will be fired. JMHO
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
ILikeThePackers39
14 years ago


Personally, I want them to be working some tackles out TODAY.

Jobs at stake? Right. Tackle. Now. And don't bore me with "well, there's nothing out there now", because I don't care - you didn't get the help that was needed when there was a pool of talent from which to draw, so now you'll have to figure out a way to pull it out of your ass, Teddy.

Now, do you fire anyone after game 2? Nope? End of the season? Depends on games 3-16. There is a LOT of talent on the offensive side of the ball, and that talent is currently being wasted behind an embarrassingly bad line.

Must. Be. Fixed.

Bright spot: Like Hazer, I think Cincy is a better team than people think - and I do think their D is improved. They didn't roll into Lambeau with any respect, but that wasn't a fluke. Our team just wasn't prepared, simple as that.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Looking back at it, I think the thing that killed us yesterday was our OL, most of all. We were on the field for only 26 minutes, and that wore out our D. The sacks were drive killers, then of course Mike McCarthy's playcalling was suspect. What happened to our WCO from only a year ago? It could have compensated for our horrible OL.

And I agree. I want a Tackle, and I don't want to hear any excuses. No Tackles out there is NOT a valid excuse. That's about as stupid as saying (assuming one is single) there are no good women/men out there and you've looked everywhere. Or there are no good stocks to buy. Or there's no good music written today. It's because we need to look harder. Simple as that.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:




At this point, I'm not sure how much I can put on McCarthy (other than - and this isn't a small thing - he didn't clean out his OL coaches in the off-season, or do much of anything from his position to address this problem). Obviously, his calls lacked something - but when you can't keep mediocre DEs off your QB I doubt that helps with play calling.

And there is some merit to the "there's nothing left" argument, but since they sat through the offseason doing nothing, I'm not allowing that argument. Figure it out, boys - find something.

There's a lot of good things to look at, but the failure to address the OL makes them all moot points, and more importantly it retards their progress. This team can't make the strides it needs to without some sense of quality and consistency in the trenches.
blank
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

That's about as stupid as saying (assuming one is single) there are no good women/men out there and you've looked everywhere.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



I had something funny to say about this, but as I hit the quote button, I let a loud fart and forgot what I was going to say.
UserPostedImage
Rockmolder
14 years ago

And just how deep are we at nose tackle? Hmmm? This guy was drafted 9th overall to come into the new 3-4 and make an immediate impact. Unless his ankle is really bad, he needs to be out there. Sorry, but this was a coaching fuck-up (yet another one) as far as I'm concerned.

"oskarliminga" wrote:



You're implying that Raji was a healthy scratch? That his ankle is 100%? That he could not have further injured his ankle by playing today?

Is that what you're saying?


I think we should not post while under the influence. :P

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Great players play hurt. Period. It's a Lombardi thing.

As I said yesterday, the fact that Raji was scratched indicates to me that Mike looked past the Bengals. If you haven't recognized that much, then you're unfit to comment on Packer football. Look for truth.

You site owners and Mods need to pull your head's out of your collective asses before it's too late. Influence that.

You just watched an embarrasment. Doesn't that piss you off? You have a responsibility as media (and that's exactly what you are) to hold this team's feet to the fire, and yet you constantly are presenting apologies on behalf of the coach and GM.

Grow some stones and write some truth!

"oskarliminga" wrote:



I don't know if I can speak on behalf of Z2C, but I think he'd be thrilled if you'd want to write an article for the site. Shed your light on things.

Just a suggestion, as you seem to be looking at this with a very different view than most of us.
zombieslayer
14 years ago



I hate to go back to 2007, but That Packer team had no running game the first 7 weeks of the season and still managed to win games.

WEST COAST OFFENSE!!!! Set up the run with the pass!!!! Spread these teams out, short dump offs, quick slants, go deep once in awhile, make a defense respect your passing game then the run will work.

The guys on the roster are the ones the GM and HC decided were their best options, if Aaron Rodgers doesn't have time for 5 or 7 step drop, do something else to create that time.

The big difference in this year and last is the defense, but you cannot expect a defense to be on the field for extended lengths of time, without giving up points.

"buckeyepackfan" wrote:



+1 for this part alone.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
Fan Shout
dhazer (13m) : wow the last 2 picks are really stupid and probably will be special teams players Top 10 draft pick next year book it
TheKanataThrilla (56m) : I think he ended up with a terrible RAS score
dhazer (59m) : Anyone know what went on with Kitchens from Florida? At 1 point he was to be the Packers 1st round and he is way down the board now
Martha Careful (16h) : Z, could you please combine my thread with yours please. I obviously did not see it when I Created it
Martha Careful (20h) : Re: 'Kool-Aid' McKinstry. Other than Icky Woods, has there ever been a good NFLer with a childish nickname?
Martha Careful (21h) : Packers looking to trade up
Martha Careful (23h) : Flag?
Martha Careful (23h) : Sag?
Nonstopdrivel (26-Apr) : It rhymes with "bag."
beast (26-Apr) : Family? That's Deadpool's F word
Nonstopdrivel (26-Apr) : Not THAT f-word.
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : fuck
beast (25-Apr) : 49ers are Cap Tight
beast (25-Apr) : Fuck
Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : Kanata, I will be when I'm on my lunch later
TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : Love you NSD
Nonstopdrivel (25-Apr) : Huh. I guess the F-word is censored in this fan shout.
Nonstopdrivel (25-Apr) : Anyone who doesn't hang out in the chat probably smokes pole.
TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : GoPackGo Thinking CB is the pick tonight
TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : Anyone hanging out in the chat tonight?
Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : whoa...49ers have had trade conversations about both Deebo Samuel and Brandon Aiyuk
Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : I hope they take a Punter at 9th overall. Be bold!
Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : I may end up eating those words but I think they need a lot more talent then their 4 picks can provide
Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : I really hope they stand pat and Draft a WR
Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : @DMRussini
Mucky Tundra (25-Apr) : The Chicago Bears are very open for business at 9 and telling teams they are ready to move for the right price, per source
buckeyepackfan (24-Apr) : Lions extend Penei Soul 4yrs - 112mil
buckeyepackfan (24-Apr) : Lions extend St. Brown 4 years 120mil and
Mucky Tundra (24-Apr) : Now look, trading up to 13 to take a TE might not seem like a good idea later but it will be later!
dfosterf (24-Apr) : (Your trade up mock post)
dfosterf (24-Apr) : Mucky- The only thing fun to watch would be me flipping the f out if Gute goes up to 13 and grabs Brock Bowers, lol
beast (24-Apr) : DT Byron Murphy II, Texas... whom some believe is the next Aaron Donald (or the closest thing to Donald)
Zero2Cool (24-Apr) : What? And who?
Mucky Tundra (24-Apr) : *sad Mucky noises*
Mucky Tundra (24-Apr) : @JoeJHoyt Murphy said he’s been told he won’t slide past pick No. 16.
wpr (23-Apr) : Just about time to watch Sonny Weaver stick it to the seahags. I never get tired of it.
Martha Careful (23-Apr) : *game plan
Martha Careful (23-Apr) : IMHO, not even close. He is not a guy you game play around.
Mucky Tundra (23-Apr) : is Aiyuk worth a 1st rounder?
Zero2Cool (23-Apr) : 49ers are seeking a 1st round pick in exchange for WR Brandon Aiyuk
Mucky Tundra (22-Apr) : Based on Gutes comments, now I don't feel as silly having 13 picks in my mock the other day
Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : Zach Wilson to Broncos.
Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : Gutekunst says he'd love to have 13 or 14 picks. He's trading back huh lol
beast (22-Apr) : Someday we'll have a draft betting scandal
beast (21-Apr) : Sometimes looking extremely amazing, sometimes looking extremely lost
beast (21-Apr) : I haven't looked into the QBs, but some have suggested Maye has some of the most extremely inconsistent tape they've seen
beast (21-Apr) : Well it also sounds like Patriots are listening to trade offers, not that seriously considering any, but listening means they aren't locked
Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : Maye needs to be AFC
Mucky Tundra (21-Apr) : Not liking the idea of the Vikings getting Maye
Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : Vikings HC joked that he may or may not have sent flowers to Bob Kraft. That's where rumor came from.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2023 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM
Bears
Sunday, Sep 17 @ 12:00 PM
Falcons
Sunday, Sep 24 @ 12:00 PM
SAINTS
Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:15 PM
LIONS
Monday, Oct 9 @ 7:15 PM
Raiders
Sunday, Oct 22 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Nov 5 @ 12:00 PM
RAMS
Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM
CHARGERS
Thursday, Nov 23 @ 11:30 AM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 3 @ 7:20 PM
CHIEFS
Monday, Dec 11 @ 7:15 PM
Giants
Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM
BUCCANEERS
Sunday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
Panthers
Sunday, Dec 31 @ 7:20 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 7 @ 3:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 14 @ 3:30 PM
Cowboys
Saturday, Jan 20 @ 7:15 PM
49ers
Recent Topics
48m / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

49m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Nonstopdrivel

8h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

16h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

20h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

20h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

26-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

26-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Nonstopdrivel

25-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

25-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

25-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

24-Apr / Random Babble / beast

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.