Deshaun Watson Massage Scandal· Page 3

earthquake
Member

a year ago

Because there are 100s of massage people and maybe even 10,000s I'm a bit city area, which don't all knew each other...

Some probably didn't want to share that they were victims, or that they had a negative experience with someone locals considered a hero, and some probably did speak up, but not everyone knows each other and he looked for more that didn't know or especially more than actually liked it.

Originally Posted by: beast

Yes, it's important to recognize that many victims of sexual assault/rape do not speak up about what happened to them because they are embarrassed, do not think people will believe them, and/or (in a sort of Stockholm syndrome way) think it was their fault.

It's just not something people jump onto Facebook to talk about after it happens, ie: "hey everyone you'll never guess who forced me to give them a handjob during my massage" - especially when it's someone rich, famous, and physically intimidating who could mess up their life in a number of ways if they wanted to. The same factors play into why many women do not or are unable to say no in certain situations - they may fear for their life or worry about some sort of retribution if they reject the sexual advances of men in 1 on 1 situations.

Additionally, this idea that most masseuses are just a nod and a wink away from prostitution is extremely inaccurate and humiliating to that line of work and the vast majority of professionals who do not trade sex for money. The places that are known for this are generally run by mafia-like organizations and are quite literally dealing in sex trafficking. So if you're someone who thinks it's okay to get a "happy ending", what you're saying is you think it's perfectly acceptable to abuse victims of sex trafficking. Which is completely messed up on a lot of levels. I'm not suggesting anyone here has that stance, this is more of a response to the nasty quote from Watson's attorney.

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earthquake
Member

a year ago

#22

Ok men, explain this to me...

Deshaun Watson is an attractive man, with plenty of women who would want to be his girlfriend because he is 1. handsome 2.he is rich and 3. he is famous.

Wouldn't/couldn't he get satisfied with a woman who would be willing to put out in that way? Further is it that exciting or stimulating to have someone take care you manually? I could almost understand more if it were real sex, or even a hummer, but seriously. Also, I actually don't know, how much does a hooker cost? If he was that horny, just go to a hooker and have act like a masseuse, no?

Is it the conquest thing? Making someone do what they don't want to do? Since 99% of you are men, can you explain it to me? I don't get it.

Maybe I am old and just don't understand that kind of man...what is the point of doing things that way?

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful

It's hard to relate or rationalize the behavior, but I would imagine the control/power over others is part of it, it usually is with these sorts of creeps.

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earthquake
Member

a year ago

#23

I agree with you Zero.
And I can't help but wonder if extra wasn't paid. And maybe the women went along with it, and now see the "golden goose" and are trying to get a bigger payday.
The guy is a multi millionaire and can "buy" any hooker he wants. Why take a chance like that?
Then again, I wouldn't want to take a chance at whatever disease is out there for a few minutes of pleasure.
Guys can be stupid when they let their little head do the thinking.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

After 24 lawsuits and countless other victims who don't want to put themselves through the stress and trauma of making their situation public, I think it's safe to say we can rule out the "gold digger" theory. Much more likely is that, with the publicity of the other cases, more women who would otherwise not have been comfortable or felt safe coming forward feel like they have a voice.

How many types do we have to see this play out with the Weinstein's and Cosby's of the world before we start trusting women to talk about their own experiences?

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Cheesey
Preferred Member

a year ago

#24

I'm not saying that I don't believe the women. The sheer number alone makes it a strong possibility that some bad stuff went on. And earthquake made some good points about how it can be very hard for some women to come forward when these things happen.
And Martha, some guys are just creeps, and use their power/position to take advantage of people. I would never do something like that, so it's hard for me to understand it also. I was taught to respect women, and be a gentleman.
But that's what my parents were like.

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