Mucky Tundra
6 years ago
The concussion issue is most definitely the issue. I suppose one way around is like what PackFanWithTwins said, front-load the deal for a year or two to alleviate any concerns on Adams part. Would a medical payout specifically for concussion reasons be possible?
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yooperfan
6 years ago
Sign the man and let the chips fall where they may.
Hopefully it won’t be a Ted Thompson special like Matthews, Perry, Cobb got!
gotarace
6 years ago
Cut Cobb and use the money to sign Adams...Cobb is replaceable with little effort. Monty...Allison or a 6th round draft choice can do what Cobb has contributed to the Packers the last few seasons. Adams is a important offseason signing.
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6 years ago
I believe Randal Cobb has a severe dead cap hit if you cut him. Jordy does not. And Jordy has slowed significantly. In reality you have to cut JN... if he wants to play for a hometown discount great, if not, thats life. You have to sign Adams plus a low priced free agent was speed. Perhaps you can move Montgomery back to wide out, but I think his days has a Packer are over.
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gotarace
6 years ago

I believe Randal Cobb has a severe dead cap hit if you cut him. Jordy does not. And Jordy has slowed significantly. In reality you have to cut JN... if he wants to play for a hometown discount great, if not, thats life. You have to sign Adams plus a low priced free agent was speed. Perhaps you can move Montgomery back to wide out, but I think his days has a Packer are over.

Originally Posted by: KRK 



Randall Cobb's dead cap hit is 3,25 million in 2018 on a 12.75 million dollar contract...no way no how is Cobb worth that much cash... Jordy at a Discount...Bye Bye Randall Cobb.
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6 years ago

I believe Randal Cobb has a severe dead cap hit if you cut him. Jordy does not. And Jordy has slowed significantly. In reality you have to cut JN... if he wants to play for a hometown discount great, if not, thats life. You have to sign Adams plus a low priced free agent was speed. Perhaps you can move Montgomery back to wide out, but I think his days has a Packer are over.

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cut both and combined the dead cap would be about 6 million. 3+ for Randall, 2+ for Jordy.
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buckeyepackfan
6 years ago
I think maybe we should wait and see who is coming back as far as GM, and coaching staff before cutting the starting wr 's

Hell The Packers decide they want to do a bunch of changes at the top there isn't any guarantee Aaron will be back.
He can opt out of his contract at the end of this season.
I think restructuring Nelson & Cobb would be the way to go. Convert whats owed to them into a signing bonus and have their base salary at around 1mil a year.
Again, until we see who is making the decisions the talk of cutting veterans is pretty much moot.
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beast
6 years ago

Randall Cobb's dead cap hit is 3,25 million in 2018 on a 12.75 million dollar contract...no way no how is Cobb worth that much cash... Jordy at a Discount...Bye Bye Randall Cobb.

Originally Posted by: gotarace 



$12.75 is the cap hit, NOT the dollar amount... $3.25 of that cap hit is signing bonus which Cobb is getting/keeping, either way.

So Cobb's 2018 dollar amount is $9.5 million.
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From Information I can gather.....

Player - Cap Number - Dead Money - Cap Saving (Cut Pre-June1)
Matthews -10.1mm 4.1mm 11mm
Cobb - 8.6mm 6.5mm 6.1mm
Jordy - 8.2mm 4.6mm 6.95
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beast
6 years ago

From Information I can gather.....

Player - Cap Number - Dead Money - Cap Saving (Cut Pre-June1)
Matthews -10.1mm 4.1mm 11mm
Cobb - 8.6mm 6.5mm 6.1mm
Jordy - 8.2mm 4.6mm 6.95

Originally Posted by: KRK 



Looks like you're looking at 2017... but they're already got (almost) all that money by playing this season.
We're talking about cutting them in 2018, so look in the next year, as the dead money is lower than that.



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