beast
7 years ago

I don't see what there is to complain about.

Originally Posted by: musccy 


Is he complaining... or is he bragging? That he was right that something negative would happen, and everyone else is wrong.

The complaint is simple, it's the same with all of his post... he's complaining that people view the Packers leadership as leaders and don't view him as a leader for the correct way things should be done.
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uffda udfa
7 years ago

Is he complaining... or is he bragging? That he was right that something negative would happen, and everyone else is wrong.

The complaint is simple, it's the same with all of his post... he's complaining that people view the Packers leadership as leaders and don't view him as a leader for the correct way things should be done.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Wpr... I think beast is hoping you'll lock this down as he, again, is more interested in me than football discussion.

The nonsense is tiring.

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TheKanataThrilla
7 years ago
I swear that some of these threads are like political discussions where if one person says something then others have to choose the opposite side just to disagree and troll people. It's fucking annoying.

Starks should have been cut during the season before he had his car accident. He was absolutely terrible. He got his nice contract because Ted overpaid and Lacy is totally unreliable to keep his weight in check.

Thanks for the great games during our Super Bowl run, but really it was time to move on.
nerdmann
7 years ago

I swear that some of these threads are like political discussions where if one person says something then others have to choose the opposite side just to disagree and troll people. It's fucking annoying.

Starks should have been cut during the season before he had his car accident. He was absolutely terrible. He got his nice contract because Ted overpaid and Lacy is totally unreliable to keep his weight in check.

Thanks for the great games during our Super Bowl run, but really it was time to move on.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



He had lost a step, but was solid in pass pro.

Mike likes his RBs big and slow.
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musccy
7 years ago


4.1 ypc? The definition of average?
I'm not crazy not alone on this.
Because nobody will actually look, I'll make it easy. Here's the comments on Rodney's tweet to the overpay of Starks:

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I feel like you're treating this as some earth-shattering deal. I think the cap hit was 2.75M last year from him and it was coming off a fairly productive 2015. 1.5% of the cap, that's it. I get it, Starks sucked horribly last year, but I just don't see why it was all that bad of a signing at the time. It really didn't handicap the organization in any appreciable way. You want to bring up Hawk or CM3's contracts, fine but this particular contract IMO wasn't that big of a deal.

beast
7 years ago

Wpr... I think beast is hoping you'll lock this down as he, again, is more interested in me than football discussion.

The nonsense is tiring.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 


Awe, he's crying to daddy... isn't that cute.

But I made these post well before I read WPR comment about lock down... but no I don't want this post locked down... it shows how far you're willing to go to bitch... taking a very minor contract and making sound like we gave him 10 million or something.

It also shows how you're a hypocrite... as you bitch when Thompson does something, just as you bitch when Thompson does nothing.... fact is, no matter what happens, you're going to bitch about Thompson.

You want change... but are you going to be happy with the change you get? For a honeymoon period yes... but then you'll go back to being the same... and wanting more change... because they don't do what you want.
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beast
7 years ago

Starks should have been cut during the season before he had his car accident. He was absolutely terrible. He got his nice contract because Ted overpaid and Lacy is totally unreliable to keep his weight in check.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 


Also because Starks had a decent year last year.

He had lost a step, but was solid in pass pro.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


Yeah I think that's the only reason they hung onto Starks this season was because they didn't fully trust anyone else in pass protection... and knew Starks could be trusted in pass protection if he could get healthy.

I feel like you're treating this as some earth-shattering deal. I think the cap hit was 2.75M last year from him and it was coming off a fairly productive 2015. 1.5% of the cap, that's it. I get it, Starks sucked horribly last year, but I just don't see why it was all that bad of a signing at the time. It really didn't handicap the organization in any appreciable way. You want to bring up Hawk or CM3's contracts, fine but this particular contract IMO wasn't that big of a deal.

Originally Posted by: musccy 


Exactly, this thread was simply a troll setting his bait from the start...
Which is why it was pointless to talk about it.

Stark's low value contract isn't that big of a deal either way...
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TheKanataThrilla
7 years ago

Also because Starks had a decent year last year.

Originally Posted by: beast 



He was the 21st highest paid RB.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/2016/average/running-back/ 

PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
Some people are just going to whine. Had Ted not signed Starks when Lacy got hurt all we would have been hearing from the resident arm chair GMs is how could Ted not have a proven backup behind Lacy. Basically the exact same thing they are saying about Hayward.
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beast
7 years ago

Some people are just going to whine. Had Ted not signed Starks when Lacy got hurt all we would have been hearing from the resident arm chair GMs is how could Ted not have a proven backup behind Lacy. Basically the exact same thing they are saying about Hayward.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 


Exactly... no matter what happens the troll will whine...

If a player gets resigned: Ted paid too much
If a player doesn't resign: Ted couldn't sign him

As of last season, Starks got 993 combined (rushing/catching) yards, knew the system, could pass protect well and was versatile. For a team that didn't know if they could trust their #1 guy to be in shape, that seemed like some protection at the time.
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