Zero2Cool
7 years ago
Again, Davante Adams forcing the haters to SHUT YOUR DAMN HOLE and learn you some ball of foot!! 🙂

Okay, but watch this play, pretty damn awesome! He knows he has a dude drapped all over him and says hey put it right 'here' and Rodgers does exactly that. Just got to get this kid to catch the easy passes and we'll have a superstar!

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steveishere
7 years ago
Was a good catch but that was probably his least impressive play. His slant routes were actually good, on that play he was well covered 100% of the play. That one is to me a 99% credit to Rodgers, perfect placement to a covered WR after evading pressure.
Porforis
7 years ago

Was a good catch but that was probably his least impressive play. His slant routes were actually good, on that play he was well covered 100% of the play. That one is to me a 99% credit to Rodgers, perfect placement to a covered WR after evading pressure.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Don't agree with that assessment. Maybe 50-50. Ball could have been a little off to the outside and still catchable but it still required a darn good pass, so credit there. That was a REALLY hard ball to bring in so kudos to Adams there.
musccy
7 years ago
He's good, obviously has been big for us and we'll need him assuming Jordy is out, but I wouldn't say he's truly unique or "special."
PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
He is good. But there are a lot of good WR. He hasn't proven himself to be special yet. Always hopeful he will someday.
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Smokey
7 years ago
Adams , IMO, has showed marked improvement sense GB's opening game with Jacksonville. He has gotten better running his routes, making catches, and gaining yards following a catch. He has earned his "at a boy". [biggrin]
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steveishere
7 years ago

Don't agree with that assessment. Maybe 50-50. Ball could have been a little off to the outside and still catchable but it still required a darn good pass, so credit there. That was a REALLY hard ball to bring in so kudos to Adams there.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



I said it was a good catch but the rest of the play wasn't anything special. He nwver got open the whole play and wasn't even open when he caught it but Rodgers threw a ridiculous pass. Every other route Adams caught a pass on was more impressive than that one.
uffda udfa
7 years ago
I'm the #1 Davante "hater"...never thought much of him but can't dismiss what he's done in multiple games this season. The one thing that has really stood out to me is he's gotten open on several go routes where he has a lot of separation between himself and the DB. I'm not sure how this is occurring as I don't have all 22 but it's hard for me to imagine it's due to his raw speed which isn't anything but a tick below average. Perhaps, he's winning at the line if they're pressing him with his strength?

That play from the video is almost all Rodgers and the OL. If I remember correctly, Rodgers had 9 seconds back there. That's the most Davante could separate in 9 seconds? I'm sorry but that's not very good. Rodgers throw was all world. B.B. in there. Daisy would be proud of that one.

Let's hope we don't see the 2015 version this week now that Dallas can prepare for the strong possibility that Jordy isn't going to be there. I was worried we'd see that movie again vs. the Giants but DRC went out, also. Let's see if Davante can elevate this Sunday against a very beatable Dallas secondary.

Cobb once put up huge numbers with Jordy...now Davante put up good ones but those below Randall's and Cobb vanished making us think Randall was overpaid and sucked without Jordy. Was Davante the beneficiary ala RC18 from past years? Can he stand on his own? Let's see this Sunday.

Oh, and realistically speaking...if there is any other QB under center minus Rodgers, that play never happens. 9 seconds of dancing around is almost unheard of... most QB's are throwing well before even half that time and Davante wouldn't have been open and that play is a throw away or a sack with most other QB's.
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Barfarn
7 years ago

I'm the #1 Davante "hater"...never thought much of him but can't dismiss what he's done in multiple games this season. The one thing that has really stood out to me is he's gotten open on several go routes where he has a lot of separation between himself and the DB. I'm not sure how this is occurring as I don't have all 22 but it's hard for me to imagine it's due to his raw speed which isn't anything but a tick below average. Perhaps, he's winning at the line if they're pressing him with his strength?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I could make a statistical argument that there is an inverse relation between speed and being a good WR, to wit:

Here’s the 3 fastest/slowest of top 10 WR per sports exchange:
2014 Cooks, Moncrief, Beckham/Evans, Benjamin, Allen Robinson (Landry #12 4.61; Archer #17 4.16)
2013 Austin, Patterson, Hunter/Allen, Hopkins, Terr. Williams (Marquisse Godwin #11 4.21)
2012 Hill, Givens, Jenkins/Sanu, Quick, Jeffery
2011 Julio, Gates, Titus Young/AJ Green, J Baldwin, Salas
2010 Tate, Benn, Mcluster/Decker, Lafell, Tie Dez Bryant, Demarious Thomas, Shipley
2009, Bey, Harvin, Maclin/Massaqui, Hicks, Crabtree (Jacoby Ford #15 4.22)

I think the reason is that College speedsters don’t need to learn to run routes to get open, so they don’t devote themselves to their craft [Guys like Beckham and Julio took to pro caliber WR coaching in college]. Suddenly they come into NFL and these speedsters can’t even run by slow pokes like Sherman and Gunter because these guys turn 4.33 speed to 4.65 speed with a touch of the finger.

WRs don’t get separation with speed, they get it by learning how to move at just the right time a certain way to get their DB off balance in a direction opposite of the direction they intend to head. And/or artfully pushing off like Chris Carter and Cobb on that Hail Mary. Of course, if a WR has speed and route running skill, you end up with Julio.
mi_keys
7 years ago

I could make a statistical argument that there is an inverse relation between speed and being a good WR, to wit:

Here’s the 3 fastest/slowest of top 10 WR per sports exchange:
2014 Cooks, Moncrief, Beckham/Evans, Benjamin, Allen Robinson (Landry #12 4.61; Archer #17 4.16)
2013 Austin, Patterson, Hunter/Allen, Hopkins, Terr. Williams (Marquisse Godwin #11 4.21)
2012 Hill, Givens, Jenkins/Sanu, Quick, Jeffery
2011 Julio, Gates, Titus Young/AJ Green, J Baldwin, Salas
2010 Tate, Benn, Mcluster/Decker, Lafell, Tie Dez Bryant, Demarious Thomas, Shipley
2009, Bey, Harvin, Maclin/Massaqui, Hicks, Crabtree (Jacoby Ford #15 4.22)

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



How is that a statistical analysis? You've taken a minuscule, non-random sample from a data set that's already small (roughly 30 receivers drafted a year plus however many UDFA). And you have not provided any numbers attempting to quantify the speed or production/skill/ability of each receiver so no comparison can be made.
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