DakotaT
8 years ago
For those of you who think Uncle Ted has done everything within his power to put Lombardis in our trophy case, I feel extremely sorry for you, because you really aren't seeing the bigger picture.

I lived through the 70's and 80's watching the Packers aspire to an 8-8 record, and yes, we have it a lot better now. But I don't root for the current Packers teams to win the division and then bow out in the playoffs to another team, who's GM did do everything within his power to ensure a winner. If you don't look at the 2011 and 2014 teams as champions without the trophy, I feel bad for you because the ball was dropped. Point to any token fall guy you want, but the fact of the matter is those teams choked with superior talent to the teams they lost to.


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PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago

For those of you who think Uncle Ted has done everything within his power to put Lombardis in our trophy case, I feel extremely sorry for you, because you really aren't seeing the bigger picture.

I lived through the 70's and 80's watching the Packers aspire to an 8-8 record, and yes, we have it a lot better now. But I don't root for the current Packers teams to win the division and then bow out in the playoffs to another team, who's GM did do everything within his power to ensure a winner. If you don't look at the 2011 and 2014 teams as champions without the trophy, I feel bad for you because the ball was dropped. Point to any token fall guy you want, but the fact of the matter is those teams choked with superior talent to the teams they lost to.

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I think we need to realize that yes there is probably more things he could have done, but also realize that those things may not have resulted in the desired outcome, and may have hurt the team in the long run also.

I thought they (Ted and team) had a chance to go for it prior to signing Rodgers and Matthews big deals, that increased money could have gone to improve other positions on the team. But we also need to consider what the result of doing so would have been. Every year contracts get bigger so we would have likely ended up paying both of them a little more which would have impacted what other players the team could or could not have kept down the road.

I've said for years that building through the draft is great, but you cannot rely on it solely. between O and D there are 22 starters. In a great draft, you might end up with 3 or 4 long term starters. I think Wolf best draft was 2000 when he got Clifton, Tauscher, Bubba and KGB. So even having great drafts it would take over 5 years to fill roster with drafted starters assuming none of your picks over lapped position spots. and you were able to retain them all.

The team today is not building through the draft, it is maintaining through the draft. The odds of the best players in the draft when we pick all matching the positions we need to improve is not good. So we need to make a move to improve those positions that the draft didn't. But we also need to do it wisely because to often moves like we want made dont' and none of us want to be in cap hell and still not have that SB win.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
nerdmann
8 years ago

For those of you who think Uncle Ted has done everything within his power to put Lombardis in our trophy case, I feel extremely sorry for you, because you really aren't seeing the bigger picture.

I lived through the 70's and 80's watching the Packers aspire to an 8-8 record, and yes, we have it a lot better now. But I don't root for the current Packers teams to win the division and then bow out in the playoffs to another team, who's GM did do everything within his power to ensure a winner. If you don't look at the 2011 and 2014 teams as champions without the trophy, I feel bad for you because the ball was dropped. Point to any token fall guy you want, but the fact of the matter is those teams choked with superior talent to the teams they lost to.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Indeed. Hence it's not Ted's player acquisitions (or lack thereof) which cost us.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Cheesey
8 years ago
I agree that Ted can, and SHOULD do more to get us over the top.
He has proven that his way is good, but like any puzzle, if it's 99% done, it STILL needs a few pieces to make it complete.
Ted NEEDS to acquire the few parts to make the Packers champions again. Before we lose AR.
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