I am not one to normally pull for Chicago, but I will make an exception for Seattle. After all their gloating the past seasons, and now their whining - they deserve to get their asses handed to them. I hope PC has a heart attack and dies, and Wilson gets paralyzed this year. They deserve any bad karma that heads their way.

Originally Posted by: hardrocker950 

Yeah you just reminded me of another one... I forgot the play, but Starks was clearly stopped (and I think he was down on a knee leaning forward) but the refs didn't blow the play dead and so the Seahawks kept trying to push him backwards which was starting to bend him backwards... I was worried Starks legs where going to become a twisted mess and he'd be injured... I think Lang (or one of the OL) started charging over and finally they blew the play dead but it was a while after Starks was already down.

I know the refs need to make sure the play is over before blowing it dead... but when a player is about to get hit more or bent backward after the play is clearly over by normal actions, they need to blow the play dead.

Originally Posted by: beast 

I remember that play; and you always get a few of those a game. But ya some of those look like the rb is going to get bent backwards over his legs

Originally Posted by: Dulak 

...but you have to know you're risking significant injury to Starks (or anyone) in that situation.

Originally Posted by: musccy 

Pete Carroll just needs to be concerned about learning to chew with his mouth closed like a god damned adult. It's obnoxious seeing that guy on the sideline chewing like a 4 year old child. Now it looks like he bitches like one too.

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan 

Not sure what they're complaining about. These fumble scrums that have one team getting the ball but the other team emerges from the pile with it happen happen all the time. And it's obvious what happens everytime: the refs sees the team recover, they make it known, the other team in desperation strips the ball out in the piles (always a nightmare) and act slighted.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 

What Carroll was saying here was that no declaration was made by refs until after Britt came out of the pile w/ the ball. And of course, if a determination was not made and Britt has the ball, then it has to be SeaWhiners ball.

I'd say Carroll is correct, except that he is a big fat L-I-A-R...

There's a scrum of guys and 4 refs on the scrum, the Referee emerges from the back of the scrum and signals Packer's ball.

Surely, just before the Referee left the pile a determination was made and it was announced to all the players. It's only at this point the referee gets off the scrum to make the signal for the crowd. When the Referee left the scrum, the determination was made and the ball was still at the bottom of the scrum. Britt came away w/ the ball only because a Packer let it go after the determination was made.

If Carroll was Pinocchio, he'd also make a bad motivational speaker!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by: Barfarn