Smokey
9 years ago
I hear so many say that they hope that this player or that player improves. I hear that this player or that player is a project. Draft and Develop ? Perhaps the Green Bay Developers would be a more accurate name. [biggrin]
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Porforis
9 years ago

I hear so many say that they hope that this player or that player improves. I hear that this player or that player is a project. Draft and Develop ? Perhaps the Green Bay Developers would be a more accurate name. [biggrin]

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



I know, right? Let's just stop drafting players and hope and pray that the players we keep and free agents we sign all stay at the same talent level or regress.
warhawk
9 years ago

Yeah, we had a couple of games like that. I didn't say Rodgers plus a shitty D wins; I said Rodgers plus an average D wins. We have that average D now, and I could see it getting a little bit better with draft picks, etc. We are not in a hole; We are between very decent and great all around - like I said, average or slightly above on D.

I just question the premise of the article that draft and develop would have gotten us there if not for AARON RODGERS.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



I have to disagree with the last part. Aaron Rodgers is the gold star example of draft and develop. If he had not had a few years behind Favre and thrown into the fire like Alex Smith there is no telling how he would have turned out. The fact nearly every other team will not wait to get a QB in the game before they are ready has ruined a lot of careers. By all accounts Rodgers was not ready but you can bet your buns he would have been put in, ready or not, by nearly any other team that had taken him.

The part about the D I agree with. I don't understand the gloom and doom of some here when you look back at the progress the D made last year. Oh, but they are going to get torched in the passing game. Really? Why? They lost Tramon Williams. Is that the end of the world? The ILB's they let go didn't do anything to make the pass D any better. They aren't the key players in pass defense anyhow with one coming off on passing downs.

I think the D will see a lot of passes but not because they can't defend it. Opposing teams will face the pressure of keeping up with the best O in the NFL and I absolutely believe the Packers will continue to try to jump out early to get that lead and take the opposing offense out of their plan. Use your strength to gain an advantage. The Packers ability to score will help the D by making the opposing team one dimensional.

So I agree with you about the defense. I think the Dline improved and got better at their roles and moving Clay around definately caused issues. I don't look at that as a personnel problem but as something that worked so you go with what works. Game 9 thru the playoffs I take that D all day long. Easily good enough to take home the Lombardi.


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Smokey
9 years ago
All players must learn the playbook of a new team. But needing to learn the fundamentals of a given position is altogether is yet another thing. Having to develop to a level that could have been drafted is just plain TT.

I can say it, can't you, Ted Thompson is just a damn cheap SOB. His system depends upon luck and then only paying as little as he can get away with for players. As it stands the coaches must train and develop underdeveloped players to compete with world class athletes. The 2015 Packers secondary is going to get shredded.

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Porforis
9 years ago

All players must learn the playbook of a new team. But needing to learn the fundamentals of a given position is altogether is yet another thing. Having to develop to a level that could have been drafted is just plain TT.

I can say it, can't you, Ted Thompson is just a damn cheap SOB. His system depends upon luck and then only paying as little as he can get away with for players. As it stands the coaches must train and develop underdeveloped players to compete with world class athletes. The 2015 Packers secondary is going to get shredded.

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



If you're lucky enough to luck your way into one of the top 5 teams in the league and top in your division nearly year in and year out, why wouldn't you rely on luck?
nerdmann
9 years ago

And then go into the playoffs as one of the favorites to go to Super Bowl? That sounds pretty good to me!

Or would you prefer they go on a hot streak to start the year and then shit themselves in December?

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



I'd like them to be consistent.

I'm sick of them getting 1-2 games behind the Vikings or Detroit for the division. Or having to travel to Seattle for the playoffs.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
PackerTraxx
9 years ago
Define "shredded".
Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?
QCHuskerFan
9 years ago

I'd like them to be consistent.

I'm sick of them getting 1-2 games behind the Vikings or Detroit for the division. Or having to travel to Seattle for the playoffs.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Consistent like the Jaguars? Or Oakland? Or the Redskins, Buffalo, or any number of other teams that hasn't sniffed the playoffs this decade?

Fans of probably 28 other teams would trade reproductive organs to have our long term success. Why can't we appreciate what we have?
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