Would you trade for Jimmy Graham?· Page 26

mi_keys
Senior Member

9 years ago

#251

The 10% thing is a fact and can't be challenged.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

Javon Walker was as talented, if not more talented than any WR Ted Thompson drafted.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Right, you get two swings with a 10% chance, each and a 54% chance with each of those that they'll be players who aren't busts like Jamal Reynolds or Justin Harrell.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

By the way, that "statistic" you keep posting as objective fact (the one that is really just some asshole on the internet that listed every player for a 10 year period as either a bust or a hit with no discussion on methodology or reasoning) cites Javon Walker as a bust.

Born and bred a cheesehead

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#252

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

Originally Posted by: mi_keys

I agree with him...Javon Walker was a bust due to injury. As talented as we've seen in Green Bay in a long time, though.

Anyone who follows the draft for any period of years knows it's hard finding stud players in the draft in any round even the first. It was no shock to me that it's about a 50-50 proposition you're going to hit on a guy. and way less that they'll be a true superstar. I think that's pretty common sense if you've watched enough drafts.

I'll count Ha Ha as one of the first rounders we could've dealt for Graham and then see who we get next year and see in a few years if it would've been smarter to have Ha Ha and next year's #1 or Jimmy G. My money is Jimmy G. being the better of the two options.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

mi_keys
Senior Member

9 years ago

#253

I agree with him...Javon Walker was a bust due to injury. As talented as we've seen in Green Bay in a long time, though.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Yet you were happy to point him out in defense of Sherman...

And the fact that Walker was a bust largely, if not entirely due to injury, is important context for that subjective opinion you keep asserting as objective fact.

Born and bred a cheesehead

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#254

Originally Posted by: mi_keys

Yes, I was happy to point him out in defense of Sherman and I stand by what I said about him...Javon Walker was as talented of a WR as we've seen in Green Bay in a long time and sadly injury ruined the guy.

I appreciate your misguided obsession with trying to prove me wrong at every turn but you're doing yourself a disservice with posts like this.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

mi_keys
Senior Member

9 years ago

#255

I appreciate your misguided obsession with trying to prove me wrong at every turn but you're doing yourself a disservice with posts like this.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

😆 You're comedic gold, mate.

Born and bred a cheesehead

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

#256

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

That is quite true about Javon Walker. He had all the physical tools and talent you could dream of in a WR. He just didn't have much mental fortitude and that was part of his downfall.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#257

😆 You're comedic gold, mate.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys

I have a long long way to go to reach your level but will never give up.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

#258

Apparently someone was willing to trade for him after all.

Yerko
Senior Member

9 years ago

#259

Apparently someone was willing to trade for him after all.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I get Jimmy Graham is good and all but that seems like an awful lot to get him. Trading away the anchor of your offensive line (Russell already has to scramble a lot) and your 1st round pick that you could have easily used on Maxx Williams?

To each their own, I guess.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#260

Don't sign Bulaga and bring Jimmy in...awww, but too late. Winners make moves like this.

I do think Jimmy Graham in Seattle is about the worst place for him. Very curious to see what Wilson can do with him outside in Seattle.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

Martha Careful (4h) : Happy 93rd Birthday to the Greatest Baseball Player of All-Time...Willie Mays

Zero2Cool (5h) : Walter Stanely's son

buckeyepackfan (5h) : and released CB Anthony Johnson and DL Deandre Johnson and waived/injured WR Thyrick Pitts (thigh-rick).

buckeyepackfan (5h) : The Green Bay Packers have signed WR Julian Hicks, OL Lecitus Smith (luh-SEET-us) and WR Dimitri Stanley

Zero2Cool (6h) : Petty, but it's annoying me how the NFL is making the schedule release an event.

Mucky Tundra (4-May) : @mattschneidman Matt LaFleur on how he tore his pec: “Got in a fight with the bench press. I lost.”

Zero2Cool (3-May) : Jordan Love CAN sign an extension as of today. Might tak weeks/months though

TheKanataThrilla (3-May) : Packers decline 5th year option for Stokes

Mucky Tundra (3-May) : @ProFootballTalk Jaylen Warren: Steelers' special teams coach has discussed Justin Fields returning kicks.

Zero2Cool (2-May) : Season officially ending tonight for Bucks ... sad face

Zero2Cool (2-May) : Giannis Antetokounmpo is listed as out for tonight's game.

dfosterf (2-May) : Surprisingly low initially is my guess cap wise, but gonna pay the piper after that

dfosterf (2-May) : The number on Love is going to be brutal.

Zero2Cool (2-May) : May 3rd. Extension day for Jordan Love. (soonest)

Zero2Cool (1-May) : USFL MVP QB Alex McGough moved to WR. So that's why no WR drafted!

earthquake (1-May) : Packers draft starters at safety ever few years. Collins, Clinton-Dix, Savage

beast (1-May) : Why can't the rookies be a day 1 starter? Especially when we grabbed 3 of them at the position

dfosterf (1-May) : Not going to be shocked if Gilmore goes to the Lions.

dfosterf (1-May) : I hear you dhazer, but my guess would be Gilmore Colts and Howard Vikings from what little has been reported.

Mucky Tundra (30-Apr) : S learn from McKinney who learns from Hafley who learns from the fans. Guaranteed Super Bowl

Zero2Cool (30-Apr) : could*

Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Safeties should learn from Xavier.

dhazer (29-Apr) : And what about grabbing a Gilmore or Howard at CB ? Those are all Free Agents left

dhazer (29-Apr) : out of curiosity do they try and sign Simmons or Hyde to let these young safeties learn from, they can't be day 1 starters.

Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : I miss having Sam Shields.

Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Not that he's making excuses, just pointing it out

Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : That's for dang sure. Make our erratic kicker have no excuse!

packerfanoutwest (28-Apr) : having a great long snapper is gold

Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : LaFleur looking like he had some weight. Coachin will do that lol

Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : Thanks Mucky and whomever created topcos for each pick!

Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : Insane about Kingsley

dfosterf (28-Apr) : Putring it here so Mucky sees it. He was our guy!

dfosterf (28-Apr) : Bowden long snapper Wisconsin. Consensus best LS in college.

dfosterf (28-Apr) : We got Peter Bowde

dfosterf (28-Apr) : I personally interpret that as a partial tear that can be recovered from with rehab

dfosterf (28-Apr) : MLF said Kingsley Enagbare did NOT tear his ACL and did NOT require surgery, and that he is "looking good" for the 2024 season!

beast (28-Apr) : T.O. son signs with the 49ers

Mucky Tundra (28-Apr) : damn those vikings

beast (27-Apr) : UDFA Vikings sign TE – Trey Knox, South Carolina

beast (27-Apr) : Kitchen was all high from Miami, he was more lucky than talented in 2022 and it showed in 2023

beast (27-Apr) : Reportedly Packers have UDFAs Jennings and Jones

beast (27-Apr) : OL – Donovan Jennings, USF OT – Trente Jones, Michigan

TheKanataThrilla (27-Apr) : Interesting draft. A bit shocked that we didn't select an early CB. Definitely have Safety help. Pretty happy overall.

dhazer (27-Apr) : wow the last 2 picks are really stupid and probably will be special teams players Top 10 draft pick next year book it

TheKanataThrilla (27-Apr) : I think he ended up with a terrible RAS score

dhazer (27-Apr) : Anyone know what went on with Kitchens from Florida? At 1 point he was to be the Packers 1st round and he is way down the board now

Martha Careful (27-Apr) : Z, could you please combine my thread with yours please. I obviously did not see it when I Created it

Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Re: 'Kool-Aid' McKinstry. Other than Icky Woods, has there ever been a good NFLer with a childish nickname?

Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Packers looking to trade up

Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Flag?

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2023 Packers Schedule

Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM

Bears

38 - 20

Sunday, Sep 17 @ 12:00 PM

Falcons

24 - 25

Sunday, Sep 24 @ 12:00 PM

SAINTS

18 - 17

Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:15 PM

LIONS

20 - 34

Monday, Oct 9 @ 7:15 PM

Raiders

13 - 17

Sunday, Oct 22 @ 3:25 PM

Broncos

17 - 19

Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

10 - 24

Sunday, Nov 5 @ 12:00 PM

RAMS

20 - 3

Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM

Steelers

19 - 23

Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM

CHARGERS

23 - 20

Thursday, Nov 23 @ 11:30 AM

Lions

29 - 22

Sunday, Dec 3 @ 7:20 PM

CHIEFS

27 - 19

Monday, Dec 11 @ 7:15 PM

Giants

22 - 24

Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM

BUCCANEERS

20 - 34

Sunday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM

Panthers

33 - 30

Sunday, Dec 31 @ 7:20 PM

Vikings

33 - 10

Sunday, Jan 7 @ 3:25 PM

BEARS

17 - 9

Sunday, Jan 14 @ 3:30 PM

Cowboys

48 - 32

Saturday, Jan 20 @ 7:15 PM

49ers

21 - 24