nerdmann
9 years ago
Demovsky 

The Packers can't cut Hawk right now, not without being able to pass a physical, which is probably unlikely considering he had surgery less than a month ago.



Well that answers a few questions. lol
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texaspackerbacker
9 years ago
There's no need to rush things anyway. Treat the guy with some respect. He was an adequate player for a long time, never an off-field problem, never known to be a slacker or non-effort player. He restructured his contract.

I don't want him on the roster next season, but let's do it with some grace and respect.
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yooperfan
9 years ago

There's no need to rush things anyway. Treat the guy with some respect. He was an adequate player for a long time, never an off-field problem, never known to be a slacker or non-effort player. He restructured his contract.

I don't want him on the roster next season, but let's do it with some grace and respect.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



I'm with you there Tex.
He was a good, loyal, dependable player.
He's just too expensive to keep for what he brings to the field in his sunset years.

nerdmann
9 years ago

I'm with you there Tex.
He was a good, loyal, dependable player.
He's just too expensive to keep for what he brings to the field in his sunset years.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



What Tex means is, "He's a white guy, so give him extra special treatment."
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steveishere
9 years ago

There's no need to rush things anyway. Treat the guy with some respect. He was an adequate player for a long time, never an off-field problem, never known to be a slacker or non-effort player. He restructured his contract.

I don't want him on the roster next season, but let's do it with some grace and respect.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



If he's going to get cut though it's better for him to be off the team when FA starts. If they hold off a lot of teams are going to use FA and the draft to fill roster spots and that would leave him with a lot less options. Especially with how he looked last season.
sschind
9 years ago

There's no need to rush things anyway. Treat the guy with some respect. He was an adequate player for a long time, never an off-field problem, never known to be a slacker or non-effort player. He restructured his contract.

I don't want him on the roster next season, but let's do it with some grace and respect.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



The respectful thing to do would be to cut him as soon as you realize you don't want him on your team any more.
musccy
9 years ago

The respectful thing to do would be to cut him as soon as you realize you don't want him on your team any more.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Whether Texas meant this or not, I interpreted it as an appeal to blood thirsty fans.

Yes he's been underwhelming for a #5 pick, and this is a big boy business, but he has been by all accounts a great leader/locker room guy who always played hard. I'm not eager to see him back on the roster (for the money he's paid) but I respect what he's done how he's conducted himself as a Packer (not saying you're not, sschind).

nerdmann
9 years ago

Whether Texas meant this or not, I interpreted it as an appeal to blood thirsty fans.

Yes he's been underwhelming for a #5 pick, and this is a big boy business, but he has been by all accounts a great leader/locker room guy who always played hard. I'm not eager to see him back on the roster (for the money he's paid) but I respect what he's done how he's conducted himself as a Packer (not saying you're not, sschind).

Originally Posted by: musccy 



Maybe switch him to TE.
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sschind
9 years ago

Whether Texas meant this or not, I interpreted it as an appeal to blood thirsty fans.

Yes he's been underwhelming for a #5 pick, and this is a big boy business, but he has been by all accounts a great leader/locker room guy who always played hard. I'm not eager to see him back on the roster (for the money he's paid) but I respect what he's done how he's conducted himself as a Packer (not saying you're not, sschind).

Originally Posted by: musccy 



What I meant was if you know he is not part of your plans holding on to him lessens his chance to catch on with another team and that is what is disrespectful. If he had another year left and holding on until after June 1st meant something in terms of cap relief that is understandable from a team perspective but holding on to a guy you know no longer figures into your plan is being disrespectful to him. With the injury thing that may not apply but I think it did apply to guys like Bostick, Jones and Dorsey. We knew they didn't figure into out plans and we let them go so they could make plans and be available for other teams to consider right from the start. That is showing respect to your players.

I agree that Hawk has been nothing but a class act on the team. He willingly took pay cuts. He accepted being cut and brought back at a lesser salary when some guys may have taken it personally. If every Packer player had A.J Hawk's attitude we would be a better team without adding another player.
nerdmann
9 years ago

What I meant was if you know he is not part of your plans holding on to him lessens his chance to catch on with another team and that is what is disrespectful. If he had another year left and holding on until after June 1st meant something in terms of cap relief that is understandable from a team perspective but holding on to a guy you know no longer figures into your plan is being disrespectful to him. With the injury thing that may not apply but I think it did apply to guys like Bostick, Jones and Dorsey. We knew they didn't figure into out plans and we let them go so they could make plans and be available for other teams to consider right from the start. That is showing respect to your players.

I agree that Hawk has been nothing but a class act on the team. He willingly took pay cuts. He accepted being cut and brought back at a lesser salary when some guys may have taken it personally. If every Packer player had A.J Hawk's attitude we would be a better team without adding another player.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Maybe they're just gonna trade him to Minnesota.
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