Third-round pick Khyri Thornton gets motor runnin'· Page 2

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

Yeah, it is all relative.

What I am looking forward to is seeing what Thornton does with exponentially better talent around him. He was on a very bad team. Now, Thornton will be seeing more one on one, more than he may have ever seen, and I would expect he could turn in some decent numbers.

That was a 2005 draft profile from SI on Collins. They would not augment it after the fact. Interesting he had a 3.21 grade. Turns into one of the best Pro Bowl Safeties in the NFL. I'm hoping Thornton can develop into a solid DT for the Packers, and become one of those real steals out of nowhere akin to Collins.

Man, it sure would be fun to somehow know where Ted could have gotten both players, had he not jumped R2 and R3... They only become steals or great picks if they overwhelmingly produce.

Originally Posted by: play2win

The year isn't what I was concerned about... I wanted to know what month and day that synopsis was from. That could've been written two months before the draft. If you look at a report on Tom Savage from a few months before the draft and one right before they're different.

If he is more than just a guy to rotate in so the studs can rest, I'll be surprised. Man, would it be nice for him to be a stud, himself.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

DakotaT
Select Member

9 years ago

#12

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I think we have quite a bit of talent on the Dline with Daniels, Worthy, D. Jones, Peppers and even Raji. Let's just hope these guys get to play a scheme where their job isn't just to eat up blockers so our weak ass inside linebackers get to make the play.

play2win
Senior Member

9 years ago

#13

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I know what you are saying and I guess we just have to wait and see. Ted went a bit rogue, from a fan's knowledge standpoint with both R3 picks, but every indication I've seen through the process points to his selections having merit where they were taken, after the fact.

How do the ESPN talking heads gush over the picks when they were so far off the radar? Not to mention, nearly every other media outlet? IMO, they had other info we as fans were not privy to at the time. Could be respect earned by Ted over time, could also be these were in fact really sound picks at that point.

You may be happy if he is just a guy who holds down the position in rotation. I'm convinced they drafted him to be far more.

Dexter_Sinister
Registered

9 years ago

#14

Which is why those folks that overreacted like drama queens at the selection of Thornton made me laugh. This pick reminded me of the Mike Neal pick, the difference is that Thornton is a legitimate big man, whereas Mike Neal is a beefed up smaller guy. Whether Neal can ever truly play OLB remains to be seen, but that is another discussion.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

It is also the same reason people shouldn`t freak out when Thompson passes on a player the Media overrated.

I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Actual football talk from Troy? I must chime in and carry this onward!!

That is an excellent point about Mike Neal. Perhaps his less than large frame is reason for his multiple injuries?

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#16

Has anyone watched Thornton's highlight reel on YouTube? I know, I know it's broadcast TV, or is it? 🙂 In any case, I was wholly unimpressed with his highlight reel. Most of the time when he's penetrating he's completely out of the play. I guess that's instinct that he doesn't have.

We've talked about highlight reels and how all of them make a player look good. I thought this one was the exception. After watching it, I was even more baffled at the selection. Ted Thompson said Thornton just kind of kept jumping off the tape and he caught their eye. I'd like to see the tape he's referring to.

Hoping he's half as good as that other guy we had here for awhile from S. Miss.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

steveishere
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#17

He played NT for one of the worst teams in college football, he's not going to have flashy highlights. The things to look for is if he's beating the man across from him or moving them into the backfield or holding up against double teams or seeing how he does when he's not double teamed. What I like from him is he looks really quick off the ball and when he punches guys with his hands it's violent and jolts them.

I think Thornton is going to be what they wanted out of Worthy. This is one of my favorite draft classes which sucks because probably at least 2 or 3 of these guys won't ever do anything which is just how it goes. I wouldn't be surprised if Thornton ended up being one of those guys but he looks like he has all the tools to be a good player.

play2win
Senior Member

9 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

You mean, like the lack of instincts displayed here?

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=10910884

Yeah. Wow. What was Thompson thinking?

And, I cannot imagine a more clear display of a lack of instincts than this INT:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8414362

Nothing to see here...

Or here...

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7387311

Granted, this is indeed very limited, but I don't know how you can claim he lacks instincts from any single play in any one of these uffda.

Now, here you can find 4 complete game highlights:
http://www.draftnikcentral.com/draft-prospects/player-profile/videos.cfm?id=2176

These are slower developing because they are complete game films, but still show what we got as a player, and what he was surrounded with playing at So. Miss. I still see instincts. Just because the opposition runs a play away from a player doesn't mean he was "completely swept out of the play." Did he get caught over pursuing? Sure, they are complete game films. But, this is the boatload of tape available to us fans. He looks pretty instinctual if you ask me. Especially the NFLPA, Arkansas and LA Tech games.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#19

I'll have to find the clip someone posted earlier...it was very weak. Very weak. I remember you loving it, though. That's a shocker. 🙂

The ESPN babble heads sure loved the pick:

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

play2win
Senior Member

9 years ago

#20

I'll have to find the clip someone posted earlier...it was very weak. Very weak. I remember you loving it, though. That's a shocker. 🙂

The ESPN babble heads sure loved the pick:

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

WTF?

Yeah, how about you put up here? I hear a lot of talk... When are you going to back yours up?

Yeah, please do find the clip someone posted earlier that was very weak....

What a fucking load of BS. I mean, really. It is pretty disingenuous to point to a few plays where he might have over pursued and say it was a wasted pick. A "bust." I wanted DuQuan Jones. Played for Penn State. At the same time, his stat line was actually pretty unimpressive, and that gave me some concerns. I'm sure there are plenty of warts on his game tape...

I've posted all the Thornton game film I could find in an attempt to maybe see what Ted saw in him to go up and take him in R3. OK, he brings some energy and some size, speed, ability to play all along that DL, some different moves in swim and bull rushing, some instincts. I was as surprised as you at the Thornton selection, but I guess I can now see why they did it, what their rationale might have been. Ted went out on a limb with this pick, from a fan's perspective, but maybe not from his own.

Was it a reach? Maybe. Maybe not.

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

beast (17-May) : Not sure why a players views reflect on GB... instead of simply on the player

Martha Careful (17-May) : I bet some of us have had 6+ mRNA jabs, a UKR flag on our walls, and still think Fauci has a thread of integrity

Zero2Cool (16-May) : From what I've read, it's all Jets , not us.

CanPackFan (16-May) : Will there ever be a time when Rodgers' whacko views will not reflect on GB? He is the past, thank god.

Zero2Cool (16-May) : Jan 4th gonna be rough with that start time lol

Zero2Cool (16-May) : Packers schedule listed. Boom.

buckeyepackfan (15-May) : Let the leaks begin. Colts @ Packers week 2, Vikings @ Packers week 4

Zero2Cool (14-May) : WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling to Bills

Zero2Cool (14-May) : Jets and Aaron Rodgers open up on Monday Night Football,

Zero2Cool (13-May) : $170 guaranteed. This might impact Jordan Love

Zero2Cool (13-May) : Lions are signing QB Jared Goff to a four-year, $212 million extension

Zero2Cool (13-May) : I know we moved on. That tidbit just makes me a touch happier.

Zero2Cool (13-May) : Sources spoke of many, many times last summer where Hackett called a play, then Rodgers changed it completely at the line

Martha Careful (10-May) : 1. this is true of all our linemen. 2. His run block is fine. 3. If all OL played like he has, we would win SB.

beast (10-May) : Meyers pass blocking is really good, his run blocking is really not.

Zero2Cool (9-May) : Packers have claimed DE Spencer Waege off of waivers from the 49ers and waived DT Rodney Mathews.

Zero2Cool (9-May) : And the OL protections seem to be good.

Zero2Cool (9-May) : I really don't know lol. I don't see him getting blown up.

Zero2Cool (9-May) : -3 buwahhhahaaha

Mucky Tundra (9-May) : 4th

Zero2Cool (9-May) : because he's 1st

Mucky Tundra (9-May) : Myers isn't even the 3rd best C on the roster atm

Martha Careful (9-May) : I am not sure I understand the Myers hate. He was consistently our third best lineman. RG and LT were worse.

beast (9-May) : Just saying I don't think moving Myers would help Myers.

beast (9-May) : Center is usually considered the easiest position physically if you can handle the snap stuff.

Mucky Tundra (8-May) : Bust it is then

Zero2Cool (8-May) : Context. Sounds like Myers won't be cross-trained. C or bust.

Mucky Tundra (8-May) : @BookOfEli_NFL Packers pass game coordinator, Jason Vrable said that Jayden Reed and Dontayvion Wicks shared a placed in Florida while train

Mucky Tundra (8-May) : For now...

Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers go about evaluating their "best five," OL coach Luke Butkus makes on thing clear: "Josh Myers is our center."

beast (8-May) : Though I'm a bit surprised letting go of CBs, I thought we needed more not less

beast (8-May) : It was confusing with two DB Anthony Johnson anyways

Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers actually had Ray Lewis on the phone.

Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers wanted to draft Ray Lewis. Ravens stole him.

Martha Careful (6-May) : Happy 93rd Birthday to the Greatest Baseball Player of All-Time...Willie Mays

Zero2Cool (6-May) : Walter Stanely's son

buckeyepackfan (6-May) : and released CB Anthony Johnson and DL Deandre Johnson and waived/injured WR Thyrick Pitts (thigh-rick).

buckeyepackfan (6-May) : The Green Bay Packers have signed WR Julian Hicks, OL Lecitus Smith (luh-SEET-us) and WR Dimitri Stanley

Zero2Cool (6-May) : Petty, but it's annoying me how the NFL is making the schedule release an event.

Mucky Tundra (4-May) : @mattschneidman Matt LaFleur on how he tore his pec: “Got in a fight with the bench press. I lost.”

Zero2Cool (3-May) : Jordan Love CAN sign an extension as of today. Might tak weeks/months though

TheKanataThrilla (3-May) : Packers decline 5th year option for Stokes

Mucky Tundra (3-May) : @ProFootballTalk Jaylen Warren: Steelers' special teams coach has discussed Justin Fields returning kicks.

Zero2Cool (2-May) : Season officially ending tonight for Bucks ... sad face

Zero2Cool (2-May) : Giannis Antetokounmpo is listed as out for tonight's game.

dfosterf (2-May) : Surprisingly low initially is my guess cap wise, but gonna pay the piper after that

dfosterf (2-May) : The number on Love is going to be brutal.

Zero2Cool (2-May) : May 3rd. Extension day for Jordan Love. (soonest)

Zero2Cool (1-May) : USFL MVP QB Alex McGough moved to WR. So that's why no WR drafted!

earthquake (1-May) : Packers draft starters at safety ever few years. Collins, Clinton-Dix, Savage

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2024 Packers Schedule

Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM

Eagles

Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM

COLTS

Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM

Titans

Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM

Rams

Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM

CARDINALS

Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM

TEXANS

Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM

Jaguars

Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM

Bears

Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM

49ERS

Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM

DOLPHINS

Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM

Lions

Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM

Seahawks

Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM

SAINTS

Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM

Vikings

Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM

BEARS