Zero2Cool
10 years ago
The last line is what I was alluding to earlier in this thread.

After his spinal fusion surgery, the Packers sent Collins to a number of other specialists in order to gather multiple opinions on whether he should be cleared to return to action. The doctor who performed Collins’ surgery, Dr. Frank Cammisa, the chief of the Spine Service at the Hospital for Special Surgery in New York, and McKenzie, had their own input on Collins’ future but also presented those other opinions to Collins.

In the end, the Packers decided they weren’t comfortable with Collins resuming his football career with them. Both coach Mike McCarthy and Herman said after Collins’ injury and surgery that if Collins were their son, they would not allow him to play again.

Asked if Dr. Cammisa had told him the last time he was examined that he was at no significant risk if he played football again, Collins replied, “I haven’t talked to Dr. Cammisa in, like, a year and a half. The last thing I know, he just told me everything was healed. That was pretty much it. I haven’t talked too much to him to be able to say he’s definitely on board [with playing again], but I do know he said I was 100 percent healed.”

Being 100 percent healed and being cleared to play football in the NFL are two different things, though, and Collins said he understands the risk he’d be taking if he played again.

Jason Wilde  wrote:




Later in the article Collins himself says he's at no more risk than the next guy, but you can never trust an athlete. They are too competitive to acknowledge they can no longer do something, especially at his age.
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DoddPower
10 years ago
I wouldn't be too worried about the fact that he hasn't played in two years. If Johnny Jolly can return to form, I think Nick Collins can. It would really just be an injury concern issue, imo.
El3ment12
10 years ago

I wouldn't be too worried about the fact that he hasn't played in two years. If Johnny Jolly can return to form, I think Nick Collins can. It would really just be an injury concern issue, imo.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I agree. He was a very smart safety. I bet he could be just as good as he was in 2010. The thing is, even if he does come back it won't be with the packers right? That would be depressing...
Zero2Cool
10 years ago

I agree. He was a very smart safety. I bet he could be just as good as he was in 2010. The thing is, even if he does come back it won't be with the packers right? That would be depressing...

Originally Posted by: El3ment12 



I don't believe he's been checked out in nearly two years, so maybe if Collins contacts the Packers saying hey two of two doctors have cleared me stating I am at no further risk now than prior to the injury. Can you give me a physical?


McCarthy can backtrack on his "if Nick were my kid, i wouldn't let him play" comment by saying "Frankly, that was before we received PAWSitive feedback on the player from Pat."

In other words, if Pat were to say his kid was at no further risk than the next guy, he'd be down with him playing.




UserPostedImage
10 years ago

Let's say Nick Collins signs a waiver assuming all responsiblity for any football related neck injury.

Let's say the Packers sign Collins under this premise.

Then Collins suffers a paralyzing injury on Lambeau Field in front of 80,000 fans.


What if this were to happen?

What would you as a fan feel towards the Packers organization?

What would you as a fan feel towards Collins in regards to responsibility?

Originally Posted by: MintBaconDrivel 

What would you do?

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