Resigning Aaron Long Term· Page 2

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

11 years ago

Ya these teams are overpaying their QBs.. Vick got a 100 million dollar contract after 1 good year.. It's not worth giving your QB 20 million a year. I mean seriously I could take 20-30 mil off my contract to make my team better. Especially when the league has a cap. Teams are pretty stupid giving them so much money. No matter what people say about the patriots they are probably the brightest organization every year. Starting with building a team. As they reduced Tom Bradys contract that still has him what making 50,60,70 mil? That should be enough lol.

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon

Tom Brady's contract was extended, the money he was due in 2013 (apprx. 19mil, was converted to signing bonus money, which enables the team to spread that money out over the 3 year contract.

Tom Brady did not take any less money, he was just paid differently to reduce his cap # hit in 2013.

Clay and Aaron's contracts can still be extended, unlike Greg's who's ran out and he will become a FA on March 12th.

The only REAL number to these contracts anymore is the GUARANTEED number.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

#12

I doubt it. None of those QBs coming up have the leverage Flacco did. It's not like he was just some mediocre QB having a mediocre season then suddenly came up for a contract and got tons of money. He had a phenomenal playoff performance and won a superbowl/superbowl mvp.

It isn't like Rodgers contract is going to be in the 25-30 million dollar range or something now. The max his contract will be is somewhere just above what Brees got which is what it would have been regardless of Flacco.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Flacco's overrated.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#13

Flacco's overrated.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

point?

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

11 years ago

#14

point?

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Probably saying even if Aaron Rodgers nets a less per year average he will garner more of what he's worth, whereas Joe Flacco was overpaid for his talent.

dhazer
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#15

Flacco's overrated.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Ya I guess he is over rated as you state and here are some things to base your statement with:

NFL records

First rookie quarterback to start all sixteen games and make the playoffs (shared with Matt Ryan)
First rookie quarterback to win two playoff games
Most starts by a quarterback in first season: 19
Most starts by a quarterback in first two seasons: 37
Most starts by a quarterback in first three seasons: 55
Most starts by a quarterback in first four seasons: 73
Most starts by a quarterback in first five seasons: 93
Most wins by a quarterback in first 80 consecutive starts: 54
Most combined regular and postseason wins in first three years as a quarterback: 36 (tied with Dan Marino)
Only quarterback to start and win a playoff game in each of his first five seasons
Most road playoff wins by a quarterback: 6
Most touchdowns in a postseason: 11 (tied with Joe Montana and Kurt Warner)
Most touchdowns without an interception in a postseason: 11 (tied with Joe Montana)
First quarterback to have a passer rating over 100 in all four games of a single postseason
Most consecutive playoff games with three passing touchdowns: 3 (tied with Bernie Kosar, Kurt Warner, and Aaron Rodgers)

with a 9-4 playoff record :(

Damn he sure is over rated what are they thinking?

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

#16

Originally Posted by: dhazer

That's great. I still wouldn't pay him.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

warhawk
Senior Member

11 years ago

#17

The fact is Flacco's individual numbers thru the years have been decent but not earth shattering. He has played for a pretty darn good team. With that defense Rodgers probably wins 3 SB's by now.
Yes, his post season numbers this year were very good and the timing couldn't be better for him but the fact remains over the last several years they won a lot of games and didn't score more than 20 doing it. I certainly don't put him in the catagory of a player that puts the team on his back and carries them. Yeah, he did this year in the playoffs but not so much over the course of his career.

"The train is leaving the station."

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#18

So Joe Flacco signed a 6yr, 120 mil dollar contract.

Breer detailed the specifics of Flacco's contract.
guaranteed money -- $52 million (Drew Breese had 60 mil guaranteed)

Cap hit for 2013......6.8 mil

In 2013, Flacco will get a fully-guaranteed $29 million signing bonus and a $1 million base salary.
In 2014, he's due a $15 million option bonus (guaranteed for injury) and a $6 million base salary.
In 2015, it's a $7 million option bonus (guaranteed for injury) and a $4 million base salary.
In 2016, he will earn an $18.2 million base salary.
In 2017, the base salary increases to $20.6 million, and in 2018, it's a $20 million base.

http://www.businessinsider.com/joe-flaccos-contract-is-further-evidence-that-nfl-salary-cap-is-a-joke-2013-3

Flacco's contract is basically a 3 yr deal worth around 60 mil.

Now that the number is out there, Ted and Aaron can get together and get a deal done.

Those worried about going into "cap hell", only need to look at the structure of Flacco's contract and realize Aaron's cap # could very well go down for 2013 and even 2014.

I'm betting on a 7yr deal, 145mil,

signing bonus and guaranteed money 75 mil

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

11 years ago

#19

I wouldn't be surprised to see a 10 year $225 million dollar "lifetime" contract that is (forgive me if you've heard this before) going to guarantee Aaron Rodgers is a Packers player for life.

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#20

Flacco's contract does make a difference. He is far from a bad QB, but he is also not Great. He is not Rodgers, Brees, Brady or Peyton. There are some contracts coming up that could have huge impact. Cutler, Romo and Stafford could all see contracts yet this offseason or next season. And each has the potential to push the ceiling up. I have seen some projections that only have the cap getting to 130m for 2016. By that time, you would expect that Rodgers, Matthews to probably exceed 30/yr on average themselves. That doesn't count, Raji, also Jones and Nelson both will come up, Finley, Bulaga, Tramon, Burnett.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

Zero2Cool (5h) : Love questionable. Morgan is out. Valentine is doubtful

Martha Careful (23h) : Rodgers and Lazard off to a very strong start

Zero2Cool (19-Sep) : Josh Jacobs. Limited.

Zero2Cool (19-Sep) : Can't find anything on Jacobs :(

wpr (19-Sep) : Do you know if they gave Jacobs an extra day off? I hope so.

Zero2Cool (19-Sep) : WR Jayden Reed (calf) and G Elgton Jenkins (illness/glute) returned after sitting out Wednesday.

Zero2Cool (19-Sep) : Packers are in pads and so is Jordan Love. Second straight day of practice for QB1.

bboystyle (18-Sep) : If Love comes back, we win in a blow out

Zero2Cool (18-Sep) : Jordan Love just spoke with reporters and said he’s giving himself the week but hopeful to play Sunday against the Titans.

Zero2Cool (18-Sep) : Practicing is Jordan Love!

Zero2Cool (18-Sep) : Packers are signing WR Cornelius Johnson to the Practice Squad per sources. Johnson was a 7th round pick this year.

Zero2Cool (17-Sep) : Packers placed RB MarShawn Lloyd on injured reserve.

Zero2Cool (16-Sep) : Rams won’t have Cooper Kupp or Puka Nacua when they host the Packers in Week 5.

Mucky Tundra (16-Sep) : Or is that the Rusty Red Rifle because of his age?

Mucky Tundra (16-Sep) : The Red Rifle Returns!

Zero2Cool (16-Sep) : Panthers are benching former No. 1 overall pick Bryce Young and starting veteran Andy Dalton beginning this week.

Mucky Tundra (16-Sep) : bears still have slim chance here

Mucky Tundra (16-Sep) : and there's another one!

Mucky Tundra (16-Sep) : oh crap macbob has the Texans K and he keeps hitting these long FGs

Mucky Tundra (15-Sep) : Hope the Texans beat the brakes off the Bears

Zero2Cool (15-Sep) : LaFleur: “I asked Malik why he didn’t throw it on that third down and he told me Josh threw up on the ball.”

Mucky Tundra (15-Sep) : i was wondering why it was just you, me, beast and macbob by the end

Zero2Cool (15-Sep) : Yeah it was weird today for some reason

Mucky Tundra (15-Sep) : Oh my, marvin harrison jr might be as good as he was billed out to be

Mucky Tundra (15-Sep) : and none of the chats on my phone are showing up on the desktop chat

Mucky Tundra (15-Sep) : weird, i was on my phone for chat during the game but now on my desktop I look at chat and there's tons of chats i didn't see on my phone

Zero2Cool (15-Sep) : Oh yeah, for sure. That's just not fair thoguh.

Mucky Tundra (15-Sep) : Zero, what I meant was that surely a tech and IT genius such as yourself would find a way to change the pick

Zero2Cool (15-Sep) : Well, I mean, I know I did, but might not have waited for it to register and went into Chat. Oh well

Zero2Cool (15-Sep) : Or so I thought I did. lol

Zero2Cool (15-Sep) : I had Colts for few days to throw everyone off. At 11am or so, I changed it to Packers.

Mucky Tundra (15-Sep) : You know if you didn't say anything you probably could have changed it and no one would have noticed ;)

Mucky Tundra (15-Sep) : Vikings over the 49ers, Bucs over the Lions

Zero2Cool (15-Sep) : lol awesome. my pick for Packers didn't go through. sweet

Zero2Cool (15-Sep) : Packers defense has 6 Takeaways in two games.

Zero2Cool (15-Sep) : nah

Martha Careful (15-Sep) : I think I've been booted out of the chat room

Zero2Cool (15-Sep) : Jordan Love has his left leg wrapped in a sleeve as he stands on the sidelines during National Anthem.

Zero2Cool (15-Sep) : Jaire Alexander, Eric Wilson and Elgton Jenkins are the Packers’ team captains today against the Colts.

Zero2Cool (15-Sep) : Looks like Sean Rhyan will start at right guard, based on the early warm-ups.

Zero2Cool (15-Sep) : No surprise, Love inactive

Zero2Cool (15-Sep) : Inactives: 10 QB Jordan Love 27 S Kitan Oladapo 57 DL Brenton Cox Jr. 73 T Andre Dillard 79 T Travis Glover 96 DL Colby Wooden

Martha Careful (14-Sep) : Wisconsin football stinks. OL good, Pauling good. all else MEH

Zero2Cool (14-Sep) : Jordan Love downgraded to doubtful for tomorrow's game

Zero2Cool (14-Sep) : Sean Clifford just got called up. No Love tomorrow. No shock either.

Mucky Tundra (13-Sep) : I know it's probably to mess with the Colts but I'm just huffing copium honestly

Mucky Tundra (13-Sep) : So you're saying there's *a chance*?

Zero2Cool (13-Sep) : Packers officially listed QB Jordan Love (knee) as questionable for Sunday's game vs. the \Colts.

Mucky Tundra (13-Sep) : Confirmed concussion for Tua

Mucky Tundra (13-Sep) : Yikes, possibly another concussion for Tua

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2024 Packers Schedule

Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM

Eagles

29 - 34

Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM

COLTS

16 - 10

Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM

Titans

Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM

Rams

Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM

CARDINALS

Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM

TEXANS

Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM

Jaguars

Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM

Bears

Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM

49ERS

Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM

DOLPHINS

Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM

Lions

Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM

Seahawks

Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM

SAINTS

Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM

Vikings

Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM

BEARS