Police brutality at peaceful protest on Wall Street· Page 2

zombieslayer
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12 years ago

Speaking of which, despite branding us "blasphemers" and "perverts," among other choice appellations, and proclaiming that our lifestyle is cursing our children, my mother is at this very moment hanging out with Kat2.

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Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

When people see people as people, attitudes change. Look how homophobia is rare nowadays (comparatively considering how much it's changed when I grew up).

Marriage between one man and one woman won't be so much a majority in 20 years.

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Wade
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12 years ago

#12

Like I told Wade a week ago or so, until The Church publically release the actual merger of the Pagan and Christian cultures at the council of Nicea - we are left with a bunch of stories; and Revelation is the biggest whopper of them all.

I hope the conservatives and teabags enjoy another 4 years of Barry, cause they don't have a credible candidate. The day I vote for Mitt the Shit is the day I sport some Heidi braids. Next year I vote for None of the Above.

As for beign raised by clueless people, I'm with you man. I absolutely cringe about family gatherings. I usually drink heavily and wonder who the hell these people are.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Cool. That makes two of us. None-of-the-Above is officially a "movement." Anyone else want to join?

=d>

p.s. Re Nicea: Stories are all we ever had, or ever will. That's why it's not about proof. It's not about evidence. It's not about religion, and it's not about "The Church". It's about about what you decide to believe. It's about faith. [grin1]

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

Pack93z
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12 years ago

#13

A couple of things on the topic and on the tangents.

First.. video clips without the whole story can be slanted in any direction intended.. albeit I am more than likely to believe this story angle than not.

On "NONE OF THE ABOVE".. I am fully on board.. personally.. I would rather leave Washington vacant than re-elect the current 2 party self serving system back in any way shape or form.

I got kicked out of Sunday School for challenging the Bible and the Father.. been in that boat for a long time. I believe in the creator... just not the human interpretation of his word. I have been told time after time being good isn't good enough in the eyes of the Lord.. well then he is going to have to explain that to me personally. Cause it makes no sense whatsoever to me.

I have read the teachings of different religions, even some of the Muslim beliefs.. our human interpretations cross each other up way to often.. we as humans are flawed.. how does one believe one flawed interpretation over another?

BTW Zombie.. if you are referring to freedom of speech (as intended by the founding fathers).. that is long gone. Right to carry is probably the next target.. albeit here in Wisconsin we took a step in the other direction.. for the better.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Nonstopdrivel
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12 years ago

#14

Right to carry is probably the next target.. albeit here in Wisconsin we took a step in the other direction.. for the better.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

This argument, frequently made by conservatives, baffles me no end. How is issuing a permit to carry a weapon, when the state constitution guarantees the right, without registration of any kind, to open carry anywhere -- and supersedes all local ordinances -- a step in the right direction? It is quite clearly a step backward for gun rights and sends all the wrong messages. It should be open carry, not concealed carry, that is encouraged.

Wade
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12 years ago

#15

On "NONE OF THE ABOVE".. I am fully on board.. personally.. I would rather leave Washington vacant than re-elect the current group back in any way shape or form.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

Welcome to the Group W bench, Shawn.

(Sorry, Foster and other vets, I can't help it. I still love this song.)

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

Pack93z
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12 years ago

#16

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

How is it a step in the right direction... because prior to this it was illegal. I am not stating it is perfect, but it is an improvement upon where we were.

Section 941.23 of the Wisconsin Statutes provides that any person except a peace officer who goes armed with a concealed and dangerous weapon is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor.

The root of this issue stems from...

United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542, 553 (1876) the Supreme Court ruled that the Second Amendment applies only to the federal government, placing no restrictions on state actions.

Which in turn is where we lost what was intended to be a right of any citizen of this union. to freely carry.

Now why are you against concealed carry in favor of open carry.. currently open carry is permitted in most aspects.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Wade
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#17

Cruikshank of course illustrates why the Supremes have been effed up a lot longer than people think.

If one sees the rights of the 2nd amendment as "created" by the 2nd amendment, arguably the Cruikshank court was correct. Under the "rights-as-civil-rights" theory, pretty much none of the BoR gets applied to the states unless it can be linked through the due process clause.

Of course, as any cave man not employed by Geico will tell you, the right to keep and bear clubs isn't a government created right at all.

It sure would be nice if the only Supremes that got to wear black silk dresses were Diana Ross and her friends.

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

Porforis
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#18

From The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/44679119#44679119

I wish I could say I was shocked, but of course I am not.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

Summary please? I couldn't watch a nine minute video with this smarmy piece of crap.

I'm no fan of police as a whole but the lack of context and him coming out and saying "We're not doing anything. You heard the woman say that as the police were grabbing people for absolutely no reason, crushing them on the pavement and arresting them" pisses me off and tells me that this is more about pushing an agenda and getting ratings than accurately reporting a news event. This is why I never watch the news. It's not about informing viewers about what's going on in the world, it's about ratings. And you get better ratings by blowing everything out of proportion and leaving out vital context that turns what appears to be something worth taking to the streets over look much more reasonable.

Brilliant idea for all you self-proclaimed journalists: Provide the backstory, proper context FIRST. Without it, you're giving one side of the story (the first one presented) more weight than it deserves. A lot of these jokers don't bother with any context or backstory at all.

zombieslayer
Registered

12 years ago

#19

The whole concept that you need a permit for ANY Right that you were Born with is absurd. I see where NSD is going with this.

My man Donald Driver

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2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷

Formo
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12 years ago

#20

I tend to agree with Porforis here.

And don't get me started on our Bill of Rights.

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