I think guys that do a lot of spearing or cheap shotting with their helmets usually end up with self inflicted neck problems they get to deal with for the rest of their lives, so it kind of takes care of itself. A prime example of this is John Lynch. He gets to go down as a hard hitting safety, but he really was Tony Dungy's cheap shot artist.

If they want to do the punitive actions with fines - do it by game checks not some random monetary amount. $50K is fly shit to some of these clowns, and they probably have owners that pick up the tab under the table anyway.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

If a RB puts his head down and plunges into the line, they won't fine him. That's far worse than DBs hitting guys. It's not the DB's fault if the QB is leading his WRs into hits.
Now the blatant hits to the head of Arodge, that's another story. Went repeatedly uncalled for two years. Finally Arodge is getting some respect. Wasn't it Briggs who went after Arodge's head in the playoffs this year? That's cheap.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

If a RB puts his head down and plunges into the line, they won't fine him. That's far worse than DBs hitting guys.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

I'm not trying to discredit Roy Williams here, but if he said he should be fined for the hit, then he'll be considered soft and a target.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Right, buy how many times were players hit with helmet to helmet contact compared to how many times an offensive player come out and said there should be no fine afterwards. Roy Williams doesn't have to say anything on the matter and he choose to come out and defend Nick's hit.

With regards to the rules I don't like the inconsistency with which they're enforced and how strict they are. If it was glancing, incidental contact I don't think it should even be a foul yet last year we saw defenders be fined for contact as innocent as brushing the top of Brett Favre's helmet with his fingertips. Whereas, Rodgers, among others, has taken intentional or at the very least extremely sloppy head shots without drawing a flag.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 

Roy Williams didn't come out and say it. He was asked point blank, do you feel the hit deserves a fine? :)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I think guys that do a lot of spearing or cheap shotting with their helmets usually end up with self inflicted neck problems they get to deal with for the rest of their lives, so it kind of takes care of itself. A prime example of this is John Lynch. He gets to go down as a hard hitting safety, but he really was Tony Dungy's cheap shot artist.

If they want to do the punitive actions with fines - do it by game checks not some random monetary amount. $50K is fly shit to some of these clowns, and they probably have owners that pick up the tab under the table anyway.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

I don't know what question(s) Williams was asked after the game as the article I cited doesn't say what the conversation was. That said you can change the subject or not answer the question very directly. You can say you haven't seen it. There's a million ways he could get out of saying what he did without looking soft as you put it.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 

Later that year he speared a tackled RB and jammed his neck so bad, it ended his career in Tampa. .

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 

Poor selection of wording on my part. Should have said, 'could have' been viewed as soft and became a target.

I don't know the questions either, but I do know that one. This discussion was discussed shortly after it happened. :)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool