all_about_da_packers
13 years ago

Brandon Underwood and Pat Lee can be let go, they I feel had their chance and did nothing with it.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I'm not so sure that is the case. Lee has been injured quite a bit, to the point that when he is healthy he is mostly an afterthought.

Underwood, while having a promising off-season (minus that incident), got injured (shoulder) before the start of the season and was never right in the limited time he did play. I don't know if he had that much of an opportunity to get on the field with Shields emergence and his own injuries... I feel there still may be a chance for Underwood at least, if not also Lee.
The NFL: Where Greg Jennings Happens.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Brandon Underwood and Pat Lee can be let go, they I feel had their chance and did nothing with it.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



I'm not so sure that is the case. Lee has been injured quite a bit, to the point that when he is healthy he is mostly an afterthought.

Underwood, while having a promising off-season (minus that incident), got injured (shoulder) before the start of the season and was never right in the limited time he did play. I don't know if he had that much of an opportunity to get on the field with Shields emergence and his own injuries... I feel there still may be a chance for Underwood at least, if not also Lee.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Once famously said ... if you have all the talent in the world and can't stay on the field, that talent means nothing.


Lee, Underwood, gone. They need replaced.
UserPostedImage
Yerko
13 years ago
The fact that Woodson would be willing to move shows a lot of class...and the urge for another ring. With Woodson's injury, I think it would be a valuable option for him to move to safety and also for Burnett, to get some playing time and valuable experience.

This would only be a possibility though with another prime DB such as Aso. Unfortunately, this is not likely for Ted Thompson to do so I will not get my hopes up. Even though Woodson isn't recruiting him, maybe Ted Thompson at least takes a small look and makes a good deal with Aso, who is willing to take a pay cut for a contender.

Packers already have the best odds to win the next Super Bowl :thumbleft:
UserPostedImage
warhawk
13 years ago
I would rather resign Jenkins and Hawk than spend the money on a CB.

Leave one of the best defenses in the NFL intact as possible. We sign this guy, as good as he is, and there is little to no chance these other two come back here.
"The train is leaving the station."
jdlax
13 years ago

I do see Chalres Woodson moving the safety.

By the middle of next season, he will move to safety because Sam Shields will be ready to be the number #2 corner.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



While Shields might be ready to be a #2, moving Charles to safety as a result assumes that we have some capable #3 CB... which we currently do not have.

Frankly, I'd be all for a move of Charles to Safety - he provides a skill set and plays the game in a way that is an excellent complement to Nick Collins' style. At the very least, I think C-Wood is a much, much better fit for Collins than Burnett was as a rookie. Maybe Burnett improves considerably in the tackling and hitting dept. in his second season - but until he does I believe pairing him with Collins (thereby forcing Collins to play closer to the line of scrimmage) is a waste of Collins' talent.

Having said all that, I just don't think Woodson can be moved to safety. You essentially go from having a solid starting trio to having Jarret Bush as your nickle. That is not much of an appealing option.

"millertime" wrote:



I could be reading this all wrong, but it seems like people are suggesting the move to safety for Woodson contingent on signing someone like Asomugha, which would leave the 3 top CBs as Williams/Asomugha/Sheilds. No?

EDIT: my bad. I just noticed that you were directly quoting someone suggesting Sheilds could be the #2 CB.

The Leafs still suck though. 😃
Zero2Cool
13 years ago
Where's jd4shizzle?
UserPostedImage
jdlax
13 years ago
I think that might have fallen, mysteriously, by the wayside! 😃
peteralan71
13 years ago

We were never big spenders and we won the superbowl with that approach.

"Porforis" wrote:



As I recall our payroll was either the largest or top three last year.

"El3ment12" wrote:



Was this before or after we had 15 guys on IR to pay, as well as their replacements?
Green Bay: Home of the Green & Gold. And the hunter orange. And the camouflage.
UserPostedImage
blueleopard
13 years ago
We saw what happened in the Super Bowl. One injury to the secondary means everybody is easy pickings.

Stunting Shields and Burnett's growth? I beg to differ. Dom Capers uses something that all DC's use called "packages." Trust me, with Asomugha, Capers can get more creative. He wants the best people on the field in the best situations.

I'll understand the whole money issue. But let's be real here. Nnamdi Asomugha is the best cornerback in the NFL. The fact that he has no stats proves it. We took a chance on Charles Woodson, who was at the time--injured goods.

Asomugha was hurt his rookie year. Other than that, he's a reliable and consistent threat.

I'd rather he end up with us than the Jets.

You can talk about the future all you want, but we just won the Super Bowl. The future is now.
Danreb Victorio A Believer of Greg Jennings
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member Topic Starter
13 years ago

We were never big spenders and we won the superbowl with that approach.

"peteralan71" wrote:



As I recall our payroll was either the largest or top three last year.

"Porforis" wrote:



Was this before or after we had 15 guys on IR to pay, as well as their replacements?

"El3ment12" wrote:




link 

Year / Total Payroll
2010
NFL Teams 	Total Payroll
NFL Oakland Raiders Team Salaries 	$ 152,389,371
NFL Dallas Cowboys Team Salaries 	$ 146,401,600
NFL Minnesota Vikings Team Salaries 	$ 133,354,045
NFL Cleveland Browns Team Salaries 	$ 131,916,300
NFL New Orleans Saints Team Salaries 	$ 131,531,820
NFL Pittsburgh Steelers Team Salaries 	$ 128,815,061
NFL Tennessee Titans Team Salaries 	$ 126,017,443
NFL Arizona Cardinals Team Salaries 	$ 122,110,110
NFL Jacksonville Jaguars Team Salaries 	$ 122,109,207
NFL Chicago Bears Team Salaries 	$ 120,065,819
NFL San Francisco 49ers Team Salaries 	$ 118,766,239
NFL New York Jets Team Salaries 	$ 116,910,097
NFL St. Louis Rams Team Salaries 	$ 116,677,660
NFL New York Giants Team Salaries 	$ 115,816,180
NFL Miami Dolphins Team Salaries 	$ 114,649,660
NFL Buffalo Bills Team Salaries 	$ 113,364,927
NFL Carolina Panthers Team Salaries 	$ 112,114,711
NFL Washington Redskins Team Salaries 	$ 111,963,684
NFL San Diego Chargers Team Salaries 	$ 111,813,340
NFL Cincinnati Bengals Team Salaries 	$ 109,727,880
NFL Philadelphia Eagles Team Salaries 	$ 109,557,398
NFL Houston Texans Team Salaries 	$ 108,445,418
NFL Tampa Bay Buccaneers Team Salaries 	$ 104,329,311
NFL Seattle Seahawks Team Salaries 	$ 102,985,710
NFL Atlanta Falcons Team Salaries 	$ 96,391,525
NFL Detroit Lions Team Salaries 	$ 95,827,117
NFL Denver Broncos Team Salaries 	$ 95,599,778
NFL Green Bay Packers Team Salaries 	$ 94,018,300 
NFL Indianapolis Colts Team Salaries 	$ 93,373,915
NFL New England Patriots Team Salaries 	$ 92,734,120
NFL Baltimore Ravens Team Salaries 	$ 90,713,965
NFL Kansas City Chiefs Team Salaries 	$ 83,623,776 

UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Mucky Tundra (4-May) : @mattschneidman Matt LaFleur on how he tore his pec: “Got in a fight with the bench press. I lost.”
Zero2Cool (3-May) : Jordan Love CAN sign an extension as of today. Might tak weeks/months though
TheKanataThrilla (3-May) : Packers decline 5th year option for Stokes
Mucky Tundra (3-May) : @ProFootballTalk Jaylen Warren: Steelers' special teams coach has discussed Justin Fields returning kicks.
Zero2Cool (2-May) : Season officially ending tonight for Bucks ... sad face
Zero2Cool (2-May) : Giannis Antetokounmpo is listed as out for tonight's game.
dfosterf (2-May) : Surprisingly low initially is my guess cap wise, but gonna pay the piper after that
dfosterf (2-May) : The number on Love is going to be brutal.
Zero2Cool (2-May) : May 3rd. Extension day for Jordan Love. (soonest)
Zero2Cool (1-May) : USFL MVP QB Alex McGough moved to WR. So that's why no WR drafted!
earthquake (1-May) : Packers draft starters at safety ever few years. Collins, Clinton-Dix, Savage
beast (1-May) : Why can't the rookies be a day 1 starter? Especially when we grabbed 3 of them at the position
dfosterf (1-May) : Not going to be shocked if Gilmore goes to the Lions.
dfosterf (1-May) : I hear you dhazer, but my guess would be Gilmore Colts and Howard Vikings from what little has been reported.
Mucky Tundra (30-Apr) : S learn from McKinney who learns from Hafley who learns from the fans. Guaranteed Super Bowl
Zero2Cool (30-Apr) : could*
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Safeties should learn from Xavier.
dhazer (29-Apr) : And what about grabbing a Gilmore or Howard at CB ? Those are all Free Agents left
dhazer (29-Apr) : out of curiosity do they try and sign Simmons or Hyde to let these young safeties learn from, they can't be day 1 starters.
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : I miss having Sam Shields.
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Not that he's making excuses, just pointing it out
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : That's for dang sure. Make our erratic kicker have no excuse!
packerfanoutwest (28-Apr) : having a great long snapper is gold
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : LaFleur looking like he had some weight. Coachin will do that lol
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : Thanks Mucky and whomever created topcos for each pick!
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : Insane about Kingsley
dfosterf (28-Apr) : Putring it here so Mucky sees it. He was our guy!
dfosterf (28-Apr) : Bowden long snapper Wisconsin. Consensus best LS in college.
dfosterf (28-Apr) : We got Peter Bowde
dfosterf (28-Apr) : I personally interpret that as a partial tear that can be recovered from with rehab
dfosterf (28-Apr) : MLF said Kingsley Enagbare did NOT tear his ACL and did NOT require surgery, and that he is "looking good" for the 2024 season!
beast (28-Apr) : T.O. son signs with the 49ers
Mucky Tundra (28-Apr) : damn those vikings
beast (27-Apr) : UDFA Vikings sign TE – Trey Knox, South Carolina
beast (27-Apr) : Kitchen was all high from Miami, he was more lucky than talented in 2022 and it showed in 2023
beast (27-Apr) : Reportedly Packers have UDFAs Jennings and Jones
beast (27-Apr) : OL – Donovan Jennings, USF OT – Trente Jones, Michigan
TheKanataThrilla (27-Apr) : Interesting draft. A bit shocked that we didn't select an early CB. Definitely have Safety help. Pretty happy overall.
dhazer (27-Apr) : wow the last 2 picks are really stupid and probably will be special teams players Top 10 draft pick next year book it
TheKanataThrilla (27-Apr) : I think he ended up with a terrible RAS score
dhazer (27-Apr) : Anyone know what went on with Kitchens from Florida? At 1 point he was to be the Packers 1st round and he is way down the board now
Martha Careful (27-Apr) : Z, could you please combine my thread with yours please. I obviously did not see it when I Created it
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Re: 'Kool-Aid' McKinstry. Other than Icky Woods, has there ever been a good NFLer with a childish nickname?
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Packers looking to trade up
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Flag?
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Sag?
Nonstopdrivel (26-Apr) : It rhymes with "bag."
beast (26-Apr) : Family? That's Deadpool's F word
Nonstopdrivel (26-Apr) : Not THAT f-word.
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : fuck
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2023 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM
Bears
Sunday, Sep 17 @ 12:00 PM
Falcons
Sunday, Sep 24 @ 12:00 PM
SAINTS
Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:15 PM
LIONS
Monday, Oct 9 @ 7:15 PM
Raiders
Sunday, Oct 22 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Nov 5 @ 12:00 PM
RAMS
Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM
CHARGERS
Thursday, Nov 23 @ 11:30 AM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 3 @ 7:20 PM
CHIEFS
Monday, Dec 11 @ 7:15 PM
Giants
Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM
BUCCANEERS
Sunday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
Panthers
Sunday, Dec 31 @ 7:20 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 7 @ 3:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 14 @ 3:30 PM
Cowboys
Saturday, Jan 20 @ 7:15 PM
49ers
Recent Topics
2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

5h / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5h / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5h / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

6h / Packers Draft Threads / beast

6h / Packers Draft Threads / beast

10h / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

11h / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

20h / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

21h / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

4-May / Packers Draft Threads / bboystyle

4-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

3-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

3-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

3-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / go.pack.go.

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.