Martha Careful
11 hours ago
Why is Shedeur Sanders falling in the 2025 NFL Draft?

As a former NFL Scout, allow me to explain.

1. He’s not good enough on his game film.

We could stop there.

I’ve evaluated every snap in 26 documented games of Sanders dating back to 2022 at Jackson State and I studied his games at Colorado.

In addition to that…

2. He has more character concerns than any prospect I’ve ever seen. If you watch these 13 short video clips that I put together and tagged every team in the league, you’ll see what I mean ➡️ x.com/firstroundmock…

3. He is a medical risk after having a fractured back in 2023 (link: si.com/college/colora…).

4. No NFL team wants the public relations circus that comes with him. Nobody wants Deion Jr. implying his brother is a religious martyr on his X account because Shedeur is not getting his way —or him running around with his camera releasing a bunch of uncontrolled video footage and having that kind of “information leak.” No team wants to have Deion working through his influential media contacts to pressure and leverage the team to “start Shedeur” or to attempt to backdoor the coaching job with that organization. NFL head coaches understand they are firing themselves by bringing in Shedeur.

5. Respectfully, Sanders hasn’t faced much high level competition and when he did, Colorado was 1-7 vs. top 25 teams. His stats dim when they are put into context.

On May 14, 2023, my first scouting report, “Shedeur Sanders: NFL Practice Squad Grade,” was published.

Link to that scouting report: firstroundmock.com/2023/05/shedeu…

I put an initial 6th round grade on these 3 games I evaluated of him at Jackson State.

On film he looked raw.

On May 6, 2024, my second scouting report on Sanders was published after a 10-game study of his film during his first season at Colorado, “Shedeur Sanders Graded as NFL Practice Squad Prospect.”

Link to that scouting report: firstroundmock.com/2024/05/shedeu…

This is when I moved Sanders down on my draft board to an undraftable free agent grade.

I wrote, “Sanders looks like an FCS QB trying to survive in the FBS.”

The offense looked elementary, his confidence was up and down and the character issues began showing. I was floored when I saw him poke an opponent in the eyes when they played Colorado State. He was bad under pressure, and I saw how much he would struggle throwing timing routes in the NFL. His deep ball was solid, but the sacks and pass breakups were piling up, and he looked hesitant and afraid to make a mistake throwing. There were other things too I outlined in that scouting report, but I remember feeling completely underwhelmed by his play and character as it related to and projected to the NFL.

On January 24, 2025, my next evaluation on Sanders was published.

Link to that scouting report: firstroundmock.com/2025/01/shedeu…

All his 13 game 2024 film study did was re-confirm his sub-par skill set and my final undraftable free agent grade on him.

It also exposed the new “NFL influenced” offensive system Pat Shurmur implemented there. It was one big manipulation designed to make Sanders “look” more like an NFL QB by building his stats by exploiting average to below average college defenses, but I saw through it. Sanders was the same slow runner and hesitant mostly one read thrower he was at Jackson State. Only now, his concerning conduct was escalating on his video timeline that I provided in the beginning of this post. He was bolder and more physical. He had gotten so out of control that he shoved a teammate and pushed a referee, and got heated with a ball boy.

From there, he refused to practice (or play) in the East-West Shrine Bowl event and the NFL Combine further attempting to dictate to the league how this was going to go. His Pro Day on his terms and turf was also underwhelming.

Add in he has the slowest time to throw in this draft class (3.00 seconds PFF), and he was the most sacked QB in the FBS the past two seasons (94) and here we are and the NFL is seeing what I’m seeing.
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Zero2Cool
10 hours ago

when Cleveland picked him, everybody said. "figures". Has any other team selected 2 qb's in any draft?
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1347618169784537 

Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest 


Yes. Redskins traded up to get Robert Griffin III and then later took Kirk Cousins in 4th. That one comes to mind.
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beast
9 hours ago

when Cleveland picked him, everybody said. "figures". Has any other team selected 2 qb's in any draft?

Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest 


I think it used to be quite common.

The Patriots did the same thing last year, drafting Drake Maye and Joe Milton.

Yes. Redskins traded up to get Robert Griffin III and then later took Kirk Cousins in 4th. That one comes to mind.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Packers did it with Brohm and Flynn, and everyone thought why waste the pick on Flynn when we already had Rodgers and Brohm.


Also, it was hought that the Browns (and Rams) traded back to get an extra 1st next year so they can leverage two 1st into making sure they get a shot at a better QB prospect in the 2026 draft.
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Martha Careful
3 hours ago
it is disappointing that with all of the so-called "experts" on ESPN, the NFL network, and other outlets, that none of them enumerated any of the points in the analysis.
As per many of the previous posts and other threads, there must be a high element of group think not only among NFL teams, but among the media.

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bboystyle
3 hours ago
Browns is the perfect place for him. They tend to love circus shows
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beast (1h) : Yeah, but also some of the wording suggestions Jax only pranked called the QB, not the others... and if he had an open spreadsheet & 3 calls
beast (1h) : Thank goodness he's not leaving the Turtle in the Red Tide
Mucky Tundra (1h) : Cowboys 1st round pick Tyler Booker will indeed be bringing his pet turtle to Dallas with him
Mucky Tundra (2h) : that contained all prospects info and contact
Mucky Tundra (2h) : beast, according the Falcons statement Jax came across it on an ipad. If I had to guess, probably an open spread sheet or something
Zero2Cool (2h) : Simmons put up an emoji with cheese.
beast (2h) : Not sure anyone is interested in Isaiah Simmons... Collin Oliver might of taken his potential slot
beast (2h) : I'm going with Jax Ulbrich is not telling the whole truth... he accidentally came across it? Why would a defensive coordinator have a QB #?
Zero2Cool (3h) : He's not that great, but final piece of the script.\
Zero2Cool (3h) : If we add Isaiah Simmons, book your Super Bowl tickets
Mucky Tundra (3h) : Colts 1st round TE Tyler Warren also got prank called, was that Jax Ulbrich as well?
Zero2Cool (3h) : Jax Ulbrich, Jeff Ulbrich’s son, released an apology for his role in the Shedeur Sanders prank call.
Martha Careful (3h) : apparently he did not participate in practice or play on the east west shrine game nor the NFL combine. The kid was a mediocre spoiled brat
Mucky Tundra (4h) : Yeah that one that was a super wounded duck that Sanders supporters are highlighting to prove a point
Zero2Cool (4h) : Shough is the guy who missed guys at combine isn't he?
beast (4h) : It's not official until I'm dead! I have a chance still! (Not really)
Mucky Tundra (14h) : I could feel my body decomposing in real time when I read that
Mucky Tundra (14h) : @MIKEYSAINRISTIL Tyler Shough will officially be the last person drafted to the NFL born in the 1900’s
Mucky Tundra (23h) : saw the tweet, he meant the city
Mucky Tundra (26-Apr) : Was that for the team or the city?
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter · 3m Draft grade is in: Green Bay gets an A. The people, the city, the venue were all superb. NFL Draft’s next
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Matt LaFleur says Jaire Alexander is participating in #Packers offseason program, which has been conducted virtually during this first week
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : ✅ ...
buckeyepackfan (26-Apr) : Check
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Matthew Golden cahanged 81 to 22??
TheKanataThrilla (26-Apr) : Sam Howell to Vikings...guess no Aaron
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : 1 round 7 min, with one extra minute if there is a trade. 2nd round 4 minutes, 3rd -3, 2 thereafter IMO
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Agree
dfosterf (26-Apr) : Great idea imo
dfosterf (26-Apr) : 1st round to 7 minutes with one extension
dfosterf (26-Apr) : NFL comissioner wants to shorten the 2st
Mucky Tundra (26-Apr) : @jalenreagors They’re discussing if Sheduer can go back to college on NFL Network LMFAOOOOO
beast (26-Apr) : Great point Martha
beast (26-Apr) : Buddy Ryan used to say if a candy bar goes missing, there are two to blame, Rex and Rob 🤪 jk 😁
Martha Careful (26-Apr) : Bum Phillips used to say there are two ways to get better. Get better players or get players to play better. We have a new DL coach
Zero2Cool (26-Apr) : Yes. Look at the losses last year. They can win.
beast (26-Apr) : Can Packers win with their current DL?
bboystyle (26-Apr) : waiting for a pass rusher.
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 5 minutes between picks in the 3rd
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 3rd. Hate this phone
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 4rd
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 5 minutes in the 4
dfosterf (25-Apr) : 7 minutes between picks in the 2nd round
Martha Careful (25-Apr) : Sorry to bitch, but the headline writers in that section absolutely mislead, or don't know how to read. It is maddening
Martha Careful (25-Apr) : No thanks. Not a dependable guy to be in the right place and run the right route. Dumb as a box of rocks.
Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : Losing 2nd round pick for a one year rental, not ideal. Especially a headcase.
TheKanataThrilla (25-Apr) : Pickens for Jaire may be interesting. Definitely not sure we want Pickens long term.
dfosterf (25-Apr) : No.Absolutely not
Zero2Cool (25-Apr) : NO NO NO NO NO NO!!1 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
dhazer (25-Apr) : scenario: Our main prospects are off the board when our pick comes around, do we just throw a 2nd round pick at Pittsburgh for Pickens
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