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packerfanoutwest
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4 days ago

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Everybody has been making excuses for the $50 million interception tosser

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beast
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4 days ago

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Everybody has been making excuses for the $50 million interception tosser

Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest

I think the real issue is the QB market.

I think it was RB LeSean McCoy whom said, he doesn't mind QBs being paid more than other positions, as it's the hardest position.

But it pisses him off that to be paid, all other positions must be elite to get elite pay, while QBs can be average as hell and become the top paid guy.

It's a QB and Cap issue... more than it is a talent issue.

Another issue is that we fans (and the media, which direct fans), we look at the total numbers. But that's not how the markets are set.

Like Love and Trevor Lawrence are paid the most money, so fans are flipping out about that, and possibly rightfully so.

Meanwhile, generally contracts are agreed upon in dollars based of a percentage of the cap when the contract is signed.

In other words, while Love and Lawrence are being paid more than some other QBs, they're also getting a smaller percentage of the cap than previous QBs whom are being paid less, but will clearly jump Love and Lawrence's contract when their contract is up.

But yes, it seems like Love is just an above average QB, and not another great one at this time and point. And I hate how some of his passes clearly fall short, or make the receiver wait, or comeback to it, or compete with a DB for it. But he's whom we got right now. Gotta ride with him.

Zero2Cool
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4 days ago

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Everybody has been making excuses for the $50 million interception tosser

Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest

I'm not sure anyone is making excuses for Jordan Love's interceptions. I've seen the opposite -- consistently. Most of his interceptions are from really bad decisions that just should not be made when starting your 2nd year as a starting NFL QB. Especially when you consider he had three years of learning on the sideline. Jordan himself said some of the interceptions are from him trying to do too much. He didn't say this, but I'm speculating he's probably trying to show he's worth the contract and trying to do too much.

The interception vs Bears was not a bad decision. It was just a really poorly placed pass. The deep ball to Watson was a poor decision but it worked out because Watson snagged it. The other pass to Watson where he had to dive to catch it -- yeah another poor pass that just happened to work out.

Jordan Love needs to get better with decision making and his accuracy. So, no, not "everybody" is making excuses, not even remotely close. Love needs to play better, regardless of the MCL and regardless of the groin injury. If he can't perform while playing hurt, then he needs to tell the coaches to let Malik Willis play while he recovers.

dhazer
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2 hours ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

The sad part is you are describing how the 2nd half of last year went for him, he was doing all the bad throws and such but it just so happen that his guys would make the plays, I was always screaming stop lobbing the damn ball it gives the defenders time to get there and he would get lucky. Now this year the defenders are knowing he is throwing that weak ass shit and making the plays on it, but also his guys are dropping a ton of passes this year compared to last.
With all that said I still don't have a problem with the contract, This year he is the 12th highest paid QB, next year he is 16th and thats just now as you will have your Stroud and even Darnold getting a new contract. People saw the huge contract and forget that they could cut him in 2027 pre June 1st and only have a cap hit 33.5 but save 10 million in space and the rest of the contract is gone. So we have a qb on the cheap for a few years give him time, look at Peyton Manning, hell look at Brett Favre lol

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

buckeyepackfan
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26 minutes ago

I've never read so much gloom and doom from a fanbase whose team is sitting at 7-3.
The Packers ran a total of 43 plays last week, they put up 356yds of offense!
The Packers had a total of SEVEN possessions last week, 1 being a 1play kneel down at the end of the 1st half.
5 of the remaining 6 possessions ended up in the red zone.
3 resulted in TD's, 1 turnover on downs, the other was the Love interception.
That was not a bad decision by Love, it was a throw that got away from him.
Hell Lefleur even said the "bad decision ", was him not running the ball when it was 1st and goal from the 4yd line .
Does anyone here realise, that "analytics" say that The Packers have faced "The toughest defenses " , as a total than any team in The NFL this year?
Again they are 7-3.
I love when J-10VE is called a "50mil dollar a year" qb, Somebody show me where he is costing The Packers 50mil a year. Hell his extension doesn't even kick in till next year!
All I read is how The Lions are going to The Super Bowl, well congratulations to them! The first team to ever win a birth in November!
Packers are STILL the youngest team in The NFL, and are adjusting to a BRAND NEW defense!
What is their record? 7-3
SEVEN game left in the regular season, I've decided to sit back and enjoy the games.

GO! PACK! GO!

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