Zero2Cool
a year ago

Why doesn't anyone ever want to listen to me as I have the perfect trade partner and that's the Seattle Seahawks. They have tons of cash, which maybe they can take on some of the cap hit plus a ton of extra picks. Also their QB is now a free agent and I don't think they don't want to pay Geno huge money for a few years. With them trading Wilson last year and made a draft pick haul they can just trade their own picks away if they wanted. Would Rodgers want to go there? Well his plus sides are  DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockette, and Kenneth Walker. Also the nice one is he could play the 49ers twice a year and maybe keep them out of the playoffs. I can see with his ego wanting to do that and like I said he would have tons of weapons and the GM and head coach would slobber all over him so they would bring in Cobb for him.  Rodgers will not be in Las Vegas that spot is already taken by the GOAT and who knows if Adams will actually be in Las Vegas next year, they did him wrong because he went there to be with Derek Carr and that was the only reason. He might force himself out maybe back to Green bay lol. Only other place I can see is the Jets but we know Rodgers can't play in the cold in big games and it's not warm in NY.  I say trade him to whoever will eat his contract and get whatever picks you can get and be done with it.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Simply saying something on a website doesn't make it true. And Rodgers will not OK a trade to Seattle. You know this. You're just consumed by the draft capital they have lol. Plus, no reason they'd want a high priced QB when they've proven they can win without one. 

Try another team. I'm excited to see what you come up with!
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nerdmann
a year ago

Simply saying something on a website doesn't make it true. And Rodgers will not OK a trade to Seattle. You know this. You're just consumed by the draft capital they have lol. Plus, no reason they'd want a high priced QB when they've proven they can win without one. 

Try another team. I'm excited to see what you come up with!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Who cares if Aaron approves it. So retire then. He'd be off our books, not our problem.

Maybe he'd force a trade to the Vikings.
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beast
a year ago

Why doesn't anyone ever want to listen to me as I have the perfect trade partner and that's the Seattle Seahawks.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 

On paper, I think you have a great point... but... I think the Packers would prefer that AFC and I'm guessing most QB greats would prefer to avoid Pete Carroll's preference of a run first offense.

Now, they have opened up a bit more with OC Shane Waldron hiring and running the wide zone like the Packers now (then again, over 25% of the league is now).

While Seattle might be the perfect city, might be the perfect GM and cash/draft capital... might be the perfectly wrong head coach. Also, rumors have it that since Paul Allen's death, his wife has basically been 100% hands off and Pete Carroll has 100% control which has rubbed muliple players on both sides of the ball the wrong way... and Pete Carroll has even publicly admitted (when his son was leaving to join a different team) that at times he's gotten out of control, and it was nice having his son be one of the few to directly address him about it.

And muliple players (usually on defense) have complained about Pete Carroll style, as he encourages you, motivates you and tells you what you want to hear, even if everyone knows it's a damn lie.... 

I just don't see Rodgers and Pete Carroll getting along, should anything go wrong and even having a blunt but needed conversation.

Though, reportedly Rodgers wanted to go West if he was traded last year and Seahawks are one of the few western teams that need a QB.


I agree, I see Brady going to the Raiders... Raiders owner wants him both in the field but also the hype off the field... supposedly the Bears fans raided their stadium and took over with more Bears fans in Las Vegas Stadium than Raiders fans... and the owner wants the show and the hype and all that.



If I'm keeping Rodgers in the NFC, I'm trading him to the NFC South and trying to get additional picks for things like the team winning the division or playoff game as whomever Rodgers joins in that division is automatically the favorite.

- Buccaneers did sign Brady.
- Panthers owner reportedly badly wants an elite QB.
- Falcons have the 4th most 2023 cap space, and head coach Arthur Smith learned the Wide Zone System under LaFleur and followed him as the Titans OC.
- Saints have a defense, some good offensive weapons and need a QB and a GM that's always swinging for the fences, including already trading their 1st round pick this year and 2nd round pick next year away.
(Note: Buccaneers and Saints have the least amiunt of 2023 cap space).


As for the AFC...

If the Colts hire Jeff Saturday as head coach, I'm calling Saturday up and ask what they would give for Rodgers. (Note, Colts owner seemed to really want Saturday, but the GM really did not want him)

After that... Patriots? Belichick always surprises... Normally he wouldn't do this but once in a while he breaks his own normal standard rules. Rodgers is talented that he might... though it's doubtful.

Jets and Dolphins?

Jets seemingly have a defense and some weapons (though their OL needs to stay healthy) and head coach and GM might be in the hot seat and the owner said they would do everything in their power to get a quality QB.

Dolphins, they blew up... but their starting QB couldn't stay healthy.





 
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nerdmann
a year ago
My god.

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Zero2Cool
a year ago

My god.

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Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Boom. Now everyone can shut up. 
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Zero2Cool
a year ago
Yeah, this is gonna get some attention.
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Pugger
a year ago

My god.

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Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



This doesn't surprise me at all.  A year ago Gute and company made a big commitment to him with that crazy extension.  As I said in another thread here a trade depends upon how ready Love is.  I might be reading more into this than necessary but perhaps Jordan isn't ready quite yet?  It took 3 full years before Aaron Rodgers was ready to replace Favre.  Technically because of COVID and that lost season for Love he's only had 2 full seasons and just one with Clements to groom him.
Zero2Cool
a year ago

This doesn't surprise me at all.  A year ago Gute and company made a big commitment to him with that crazy extension.  As I said in another thread here a trade depends upon how ready Love is.  I might be reading more into this than necessary but perhaps Jordan isn't ready quite yet?  It took 3 full years before Aaron Rodgers was ready to replace Favre.  Technically because of COVID and that lost season for Love he's only had 2 full seasons and just one with Clements to groom him.

Originally Posted by: Pugger 



The contract tells me that Jordan Love wasn't ready to take over FOR 2022. However, maybe the coaching staff and Aaron Rodgers see that Jordan Love is ready for 2023? Remember, Matt LaFleur said the next thing Jordan Love needs is playing time. As I said in another thread, I wonder if Rodgers sees that Love is ready and the options he is weighing are the following.

Rodgers has made it very clear how important playing with one franchise means to him. So, I speculate he's weighing his desire to play (e.g. Raiders, Titans) vs desire to retire and cement his legacy with just one franchise.

Also something to toss out there. Rodgers comments on Pat McAfee about how he has no ill feelings if they want to move forward almost come off like he's saying "Hey it's OK, I get it, let's do this amicably because I love the organization and ... I just get it".
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Zero2Cool
a year ago
I think Aaron Rodgers plays in 2023. I am not sure if it with Packers or elsewhere. I do believe he would rather retire in a year where he doesn't have to share spotlight with Tom Brady in Hall of Fame. BUT who knows? Maybe since he respects him so much he would be honored by that?

If Rodgers does play in 2023. I think Tom Brady retiring will drive the price up for Aaron Rodgers trade value.
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