Packers Hire Strength and Conditioning Coach From 49ers· Page 2

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

10 months ago

This is from a long time ago now, but I remember when Punter Jon Ryan was trying to go to a special kicking guru.

First he requested for the Packers to pay for it. That was declined.

Then he requested permission to go to it, while paying for it himself, that got declined. He needed permission because he's under contract.

All this was pissing off the ST coordinator whom thought he needed no outside help. And they released Ryan.... and then as a FA he went to the Kicking Guru was better for it.

Meanwhile, the ST coordinator got to retire at the end of the year... as he rejected an inconsistent punter for a consistently bad punter. And it seemed to be about ego.

Originally Posted by: beast

I thought the issue was Jon Ryan was using a specialist. And that irked the new Special Teams Coordinator who used that as one reason he wanted Shanky Frost.

I wonder if there's a difference between seeking a specialist for your physical ailments vs specialist that might contradict what your coordinator/coaches teach? You'd think whichever helped your team win would be the obvious choice. But I'm sure some egos get involved and pucker things up.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

10 months ago

#12

Tazim Wajid Wajed @NFLHitman33

Nope… Let those folks stay exactly where they are… Just had a 2-hour conversation with him yesterday, and the facts are that there are answers coming in that may very well help bring resolution to this hammy quandary…. I’m not sharing details, because that’s up to him and the Packers to reveal. But, the same folks talking shit now were riding the wave when he was tearing through defenses the 2nd half of his Rookie season, then in the Lions and Chiefs games this season.

However, who cares what these negative prognosticators say, who would pull a hammy in a max 20-yard 20 MPH sprint, if they could even be towed to such a speed? Simply put, players follow the programs given them by coaches, trainers, and doctors. Up until the last couple of years, it hasn’t been an issue… But, do these fools think he gets hurt on purpose??? 🤨 Christian has followed the programs given, and we now know there are some changes that need to be made.

HE WILL MAKE THEM… But, to debate with some of these folks about what he has shown when he actually is healthy doesn’t even matter. Anybody with common sense and eyes can see the matchup nightmare he presents to NFL defenses. So, let the pessimists stay exactly where they are!

THE NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS ARE ONGOING… so, he’s as excited, and tenacious at his work as ever in proving the Packers, himself, and his supporters right… Man fuck those detractors!!!

Martha Careful
Member

11 days ago

#13

I think Mr. Hill deserves a big round or applause.

I am sure we have had some, but the number of hamstring injuries and groin pulls seems to me to be WAY down this year, concurrent with the arrival of Mr. Hill.

Weil Done.

Go Packers!!!!

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

10 days ago

#14

Here are some Green Bay Packers players who have had hamstring injuries in 2024:

Edgerrin Cooper
Linebacker who suffered a hamstring injury in December 2024

Carrington Valentine
Cornerback who was recovering from a hamstring injury sustained during training camp

Evan Williams
Rookie safety who suffered a hamstring injury while playing against the Jaguars

MarShawn Lloyd
Running back who suffered a hamstring injury while playing against the Bears

Can you pick up the trend?
All rookies or 2nd year guys.
The Packers had to send Watson and Stokes to specialists to figure out why they kept injuring their hammys..

Rookies don't get a chance to rest between their last college game and their first NFL game. Plus they have to "learn" how to take care of their bodies.
I'm sure Hil is doing a fine job, I just won't give any strength and conditioning coach credit for controlling any type of soft core injuries..
Gizzi was the "fall guy" last year, it was a convenient way to get rid of the old and Bring the new shiny toy.
I don't know why Teamms have to lay blame on. any type of coach to get rid of him. Just say you're going Ina different direction, thank them for their work and say so long.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

10 days ago

#15

Gizzi was the "fall guy" last year, it was a convenient way to get rid of the old and Bring the new shiny toy.
I don't know why Teamms have to lay blame on. any type of coach to get rid of him. Just say you're going Ina different direction, thank them for their work and say so long.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

"We appreciate Chris for his dedication and contributions to our success over his time with the Packers. We wish Chris and his family the best moving forward." said Matt LaFleur.

I'm not sure where they blamed him there. And I swear I heard they had nothing against Chris, but they just wanted to go in a different direction. Which coincidently is what you're saying they should say. 🤷

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

10 days ago

#16

"We appreciate Chris for his dedication and colntributions to our success over his time with the Packers. We wish Chris and his family the best moving forward." said Matt LaFleur.

I'm not sure where they blamed him there. And I swear I heard they had nothing against Chris, but they just wanted to go in a different direction. Which coincidently is what you're saying they should say. 🤷

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

That's exactly what I was saying,
The point is, Strength and Conditioning is not going to stop soft core and muscle pull injuries.

Until fans realize it's not The Dtrength and Condioning program that is at fault when it comes to soft core injuries, The coach is going to be the fall guy.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

10 days ago

#17

That's exactly what I was saying,
The point is, Strength and Conditioning is not going to stop soft core and muscle pull injuries.

Until fans realize it's not The Strength and Condioning program that is at fault when it comes to soft core injuries, The coach is going to be the fall guy.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Are you saying the Strength and Conditioning staff has no accountability? I'm not sure I'm consuming the point you're trying to make, sorry.

There is a purpose for Strength and Conditioning. There has to be some way to evaluate whether they are doing sufficient at their duties. And meeting expectations. However, if the coach simply wants a new voice, that is not blaming, that is not saying they are the fall guy.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

10 days ago

#18

I'm saying, what I am saying.
I'm done saying it.
Fans want to blame soft core injuries on S & C staff, I don't care,

Jesus, we used to be able to discuss football subjects without having to explain every little detail.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 days ago

#19

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

I thought were discussing a football topic. Weren't we? 🤷 You're saying things that fly in the face of facts and I'm asking for clarity so I understand you more. Is that wrong?

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

9 days ago

#20

You're right about everything.

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

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