bozz_2006
14 years ago
Because if Finley always is a receiver, and Lee and Havner are blockers, the defense always knows what's coming.
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Rockmolder
14 years ago

Because if Finley always is a receiver, and Lee and Havner are blockers, the defense always knows what's coming.

"bozz_2006" wrote:



Exactly. And this was obvious last year, as well. As long as he isn't going to block, Lee should remain the starter.

When you want to have a balanced attack like McCarthy wants, Finley is something like a 3rd down back at the moment. Great pass catcher, but no complete player.
dhpackr
14 years ago

Because if Finley always is a receiver, and Lee and Havner are blockers, the defense always knows what's coming.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Exactly. And this was obvious last year, as well. As long as he isn't going to block, Lee should remain the starter.

When you want to have a balanced attack like McCarthy wants, Finley is something like a 3rd down back at the moment. Great pass catcher, but no complete player.

"bozz_2006" wrote:



according to jsonline and yesterdays practice j-finn seemed to own clay mattews all-day. in fact the word used was J-finn "DEMOLISHED" clay on 10 straight plays

the report also says clay is having a terrible training camp

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/100093959.html 
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dhpackr
14 years ago

Because if Finley always is a receiver, and Lee and Havner are blockers, the defense always knows what's coming.

"bozz_2006" wrote:



i think ppl are getting a little ahead of themselves when they assume j-finn is unable to block
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Rockmolder
14 years ago

Because if Finley always is a receiver, and Lee and Havner are blockers, the defense always knows what's coming.

"dhpackr" wrote:



Exactly. And this was obvious last year, as well. As long as he isn't going to block, Lee should remain the starter.

When you want to have a balanced attack like McCarthy wants, Finley is something like a 3rd down back at the moment. Great pass catcher, but no complete player.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



according to jsonline and yesterdays practice j-finn seemed to own clay mattews all-day. in fact the word used was J-finn "DEMOLISHED" clay on 10 straight plays

the report also says clay is having a terrible training camp

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/100093959.html 

"bozz_2006" wrote:



Well, good news from an offensive standpoint, then. I hadn't heared anything about his blocking lately, but he has some upper body strength, you can see that much when you watch him make one of those chip blocks.

Clay struggling doesn't surprise me that much, although I've seen some tweets of him roaming around in the backfield, as well. We'll see how he does when the games actually start.
bozz_2006
14 years ago
Perhaps. I mean, if people are saying Finley is unable to block, or won't block, then I certainly think those who say it are getting ahead of themselves. However, this team wants and needs complete players. I think what people are reacting to here is that Finley doesn't seem as committed to the blocking aspect of being a complete TE. He doesn't seem as committed to being a good blocker as he is to being a good receiver. And I know he is primarily a receiving TE, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't concentrate on blocking. For instance, Adrian Peterson is, in my opinion, the best RB in the league. But there are many RBs who are better at receiving and blitz pickup than he is. He recognizes this, so he has taken it upon himself to elevate his skills in blitz pickup and receiving, so he can become a more complete player. Even the best players recognize they have strengths and weaknesses in their game. The truly great players play to their strengths and are constantly working to improve their weaker areas. I think Finley has the tools to become an all-time great TE. I want him to keep playing up his strength areas but always be improving those weaker areas as well. I wish in this article he'd be telling us how hard he'd worked in the offseason to improve his blocking skills so that he could be an every down player, and give the defense fits, no matter what the play-call situation is.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago
Smoke and mirrors.

Keep in mind that a good percentage of TEs catches in general are when "they" thought he was going to stay in and block. Of course, don't tell anyone. So don't go telling Brad Childress our secrets, Formo.
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