Zero2Cool
15 years ago
More TD's? He had 11 rushing and 1 receiving. I'll take that every year, but yes, more would have been nice.

I'd like to see Grant run with conviction instead of hesitation, for me, that'd be nice.

I wouldn't mind anyone stealing his job either, providing it means they earned it away from him, and was not given to them.

Grant to me is kind of like a band aid for the problem of lacking a running game. Yes, he does nice, but there's lots of room for improvement.
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nerdmann
15 years ago

The frustrating part about Grant aren't the numbers, it's what you see on the field.

While 4.4 is nice(more TDs would have been nice)...

How many times did we see him RUN INTO HIS OWN GUYS?

How many times did we see him MAKE THE WRONG\BAD READ?

How many times did we see him PAD THOSE 'IMPRESSIVE' STATS IN JUNK TIME?

How many times did we see him DISAPPEAR WHEN WE NEEDED HIM?

His numbers are nice but a lot of times with football, the stats don't even come close to tellin the whole story.

I'd rather have someone get a worse average and TDs but actually picked up that needed first down, who fought for extra yardage, and someone who didn't completely suck at pass protection.

But he's averaging 4.4 though, so good for him.

I hope we draft a RB in the 4th\5th who steals his job.

"RaiderPride" wrote:



Clap..... Clap..... Clap.....

Very good points.

"tromadz" wrote:




Agreed. Not to mention not being able to make that first guy miss...
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Actually, Dulak, to be dis-illusioned is to have one's illusions taken away. So if we were to take him with the strictest of literality, he's saying that Ryan Grant is as good as Adrian Peterson.

I figure he meant to say "delusional," but I'd rather hear it from his own mouth. Maybe he really is trying to say that only depressed people would think so highly of Ryan Grant.
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Silentio
15 years ago

The frustrating part about Grant aren't the numbers, it's what you see on the field.

While 4.4 is nice(more TDs would have been nice)...

How many times did we see him RUN INTO HIS OWN GUYS?

How many times did we see him MAKE THE WRONG\BAD READ?

How many times did we see him PAD THOSE 'IMPRESSIVE' STATS IN JUNK TIME?

How many times did we see him DISAPPEAR WHEN WE NEEDED HIM?

His numbers are nice but a lot of times with football, the stats don't even come close to tellin the whole story.

I'd rather have someone get a worse average and TDs but actually picked up that needed first down, who fought for extra yardage, and someone who didn't completely suck at pass protection.

But he's averaging 4.4 though, so good for him.

I hope we draft a RB in the 4th\5th who steals his job.

"tromadz" wrote:



Uh huh. Grant had pro-bowl numbers this year. He may not be sexy, but he gets the job done. What more do you want?

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Grant got the shaft, in my opinion.
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RaiderPride
15 years ago
"What More Do You Want?"

I want a very special running back taking a hand off from The Best QB in the NFL. The Packers already have half of that equation. Grant is a wonderful success story... however he is not a "Very Special Running Back."

Fact is.... Trom does not post often... But when he does it is an almost perfect post.
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TheEngineer
15 years ago
I'd be really interested to know how often Grant has been stopped in the backfield.

His style of running tends to get him out of that sort of situation, I think. He just piles into the back of the OL and hopes for a 1 or 2 yard gain than to dance in the backfield for a possible loss. I think it's simply his mentality. One cut and go, maybe two at most. If you can't get free, barge your way forward as far as you can. That's probably what's frustrating for us to watch, when he runs into one of our linemen 5 yards upfield.

I'm going to speculate that, relative to the amount of carries, Grant has fewer carries for loss than someone like Peterson. Or, I'd hope so.
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earthquake
15 years ago

I'd be really interested to know how often Grant has been stopped in the backfield.

His style of running tends to get him out of that sort of situation, I think. He just piles into the back of the OL and hopes for a 1 or 2 yard gain than to dance in the backfield for a possible loss. I think it's simply his mentality. One cut and go, maybe two at most. If you can't get free, barge your way forward as far as you can. That's probably what's frustrating for us to watch, when he runs into one of our linemen 5 yards upfield.

I'm going to speculate that, relative to the amount of carries, Grant has fewer carries for loss than someone like Peterson. Or, I'd hope so.

"TheEngineer" wrote:



I've never thought about it that way, but it actually makes a LOT of sense. +1
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RaiderPride
15 years ago

I'd be really interested to know how often Grant has been stopped in the backfield.

His style of running tends to get him out of that sort of situation, I think. He just piles into the back of the OL and hopes for a 1 or 2 yard gain than to dance in the backfield for a possible loss. I think it's simply his mentality. One cut and go, maybe two at most. If you can't get free, barge your way forward as far as you can. That's probably what's frustrating for us to watch, when he runs into one of our linemen 5 yards upfield.

I'm going to speculate that, relative to the amount of carries, Grant has fewer carries for loss than someone like Peterson. Or, I'd hope so.

"earthquake" wrote:



I've never thought about it that way, but it actually makes a LOT of sense. +1

"TheEngineer" wrote:




I may be wrong, and often am... But it seems to me any time he does go East or West and not North or South he get's no where and often loses yards.

However.. I agree +1 for the thought.
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starpass
15 years ago
lets draft a speed back like Dexter McCluster...his versatility can be used as a returner as well. McShay has him rated the number five back in the draft...a good value pick in the mid rounds...his speed to the whole is better than Grants...in my opinion...
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DanJustDan29
15 years ago
A lot of people are down on Grant because they see every carry he has. You don't really see AP running into the back of his guys, because they don't show that on ESPN.
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