Formo
11 years ago

I have done everything in my power to avoid hearing, looking at or seeing the names or the faces involved. Reading their stories or hearing about how it happened.

Not because I don't care.. because it would throw me into such a fit of anger, sadness and helplessness. Mostly, because there isn't a damn thing I can do to fix it.

Adults dying is one thing.. children dying is completely another.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



Yeah. Me too. I don't know the monster's name, either. Don't know what he looks like. Don't care. I refuse to feed into the media hype machine and pointlessly watch this crap.

Yup. I'm unplugged. It's better this way.
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Porforis
11 years ago

I can't fathom a reason for me to own a machine gun. There is no good reason to, IMO. But if the gubment can own and operate one, damn straight I wouldn't mind having one myself.

Originally Posted by: Formo 



On a serious note, I certainly hope there's a limit on this kind of reasoning. I don't feel the need to have nukes just because the government does. I'd love to have a fighter jet and a private airfield though 🙂
DakotaT
11 years ago

I can't fathom a reason for me to own a machine gun. There is no good reason to, IMO. But if the gubment can own and operate one, damn straight I wouldn't mind having one myself.

We lost our freedoms and liberties when the government achieved the access to items/weapons/etc that we cannot.

Safety vs Freedom. I choose Freedom.

Originally Posted by: Formo 



Yet you vote for the party that enslaves you?

Hey, I'm all for shutting down the war machine. I want to watch Billy Jim Bob and the redneck boys take on the Delta Force - they should make that reality tv.


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Pack93z
11 years ago

Yeah. Me too. I don't know the monster's name, either. Don't know what he looks like. Don't care. I refuse to feed into the media hype machine and pointlessly watch this crap.

Yup. I'm unplugged. It's better this way.

Originally Posted by: Formo 



My daughter and I had this discussion this weekend.. not because I wanted to.. but because she had questions and concerns. Otherwise, I would have avoided it entirely. She is 10 and asked some pretty hard questions about the incident, more on the mental makeup of the killer.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
DakotaT
11 years ago

On a serious note, I certainly hope there's a limit on this kind of reasoning. I don't feel the need to have nukes just because the government does. I'd love to have a fighter jet and a private airfield though :)

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



That whole argument comes from lunacy. Are the right wing uneducateds so paranoid that they think they have the right to own every weapon the government has to defend themselves against the government? You guys have any idea how crazy that sounds?
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Porforis
11 years ago

That whole argument comes from lunacy. Are the right wing uneducateds so paranoid that they think they have the right to own every weapon the government has to defend themselves against the government? You guys have any idea how crazy that sounds?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Yes, which is why basically nobody makes that argument. You can do a pretty damn good job of making the far right look crazy without distorting what they're saying in an attempt to make your point. Can you find any quotes where someone is seriously proposing that they should have the right to own a completely operational and armed tank, cruise missiles, fighter aircraft with weapons systems and weapons intact, naval vessels with either cannons or missiles? Or when people make arguments like this, are they talking exclusively about firearms?
DakotaT
11 years ago

Yes, which is why basically nobody makes that argument. You can do a pretty damn good job of making the far right look crazy without distorting what they're saying in an attempt to make your point. Can you find any quotes where someone is seriously proposing that they should have the right to own a completely operational and armed tank, cruise missiles, fighter aircraft with weapons systems and weapons intact, naval vessels with either cannons or siles? Or when people make arguments like this, are they talking exclusively about firearms?

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Well why stop at a machine gun?. Like Formo said, he wants what the government has, because he has rights and freedoms to protect. We should all carry around artillery so that we can defend ourselves from our government that want to take all our rights. I wish this election would have gone on for another year so we could have aired out all the craziness in this country through the media. These ideas have been proliferated by the NRA and white supremecy groups for decades, and I live among thse crazy bastards. Montanabob and I live in an area of the country that is full of right wing radicals.
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Formo
11 years ago

On a serious note, I certainly hope there's a limit on this kind of reasoning. I don't feel the need to have nukes just because the government does. I'd love to have a fighter jet and a private airfield though :)

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



That's ballin', bruh.

Yet you vote for the party that enslaves you?

Hey, I'm all for shutting down the war machine. I want to watch Billy Jim Bob and the redneck boys take on the Delta Force - they should make that reality tv.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I vote either for the guy/gal who's view is my own, or I don't vote at all for that particular seat (or write-in like I did for this year's POTUS). I know you already knew this because I've only told you via these forums about 50 times, so make this 51. I call and have called my self a republican not because I only vote red on the ballots but because when I first started looking at the political parties and wanted to make an informative choice between the two, I read BOTH parties platforms and constitutions and I lined up mostly with the GOP. And to add to that, I thought the DFL platform/constitution was eerily similar to the Communist Manifesto, hence my nickname for Rockmolder as the Communist (all meant in love, Rock).

As of right now, I agree with your take on the war machine. In a different economy and worldwide image, I may disagree.. but I think now is not the time to keep pumping in money into other people's affairs with our military/war machine and instead put our effort into fixing this broke ass economy

That whole argument comes from lunacy. Are the right wing uneducateds so paranoid that they think they have the right to own every weapon the government has to defend themselves against the government? You guys have any idea how crazy that sounds?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Who knows if they think that. But I don't trust this government to keep my ass safe, that's for sure. I'mma go about my bidness as if only I can take care of me and my own. Any thing additional is bonus. Unless it's Uncle Sam. In which case, he can take a flying leap.
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Formo
11 years ago

Well why stop at a machine gun?. Like Formo said, he wants what the government has, because he has rights and freedoms to protect. We should all carry around artillery so that we can defend ourselves from our government that want to take all our rights. I wish this election would have gone on for another year so we could have aired out all the craziness in this country through the media. These ideas have been proliferated by the NRA and white supremecy groups for decades, and I live among thse crazy bastards. Montanabob and I live in an area of the country that is full of right wing radicals.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I love how you drop the race bomb. Begs me to view you as a racist, FYI
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DakotaT
11 years ago



Who knows if they think that. But I don't trust this government to keep my ass safe, that's for sure. I'mma go about my bidness as if only I can take care of me and my own. Any thing additional is bonus. Unless it's Uncle Sam. In which case, he can take a flying leap.

Originally Posted by: Formo 



Seriously? You think the government has more interest in harming you than protecting you?
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