I have done everything in my power to avoid hearing, looking at or seeing the names or the faces involved. Reading their stories or hearing about how it happened.

Not because I don't care.. because it would throw me into such a fit of anger, sadness and helplessness. Mostly, because there isn't a damn thing I can do to fix it.

Adults dying is one thing.. children dying is completely another.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 

I can't fathom a reason for me to own a machine gun. There is no good reason to, IMO. But if the gubment can own and operate one, damn straight I wouldn't mind having one myself.

Originally Posted by: Formo 

I can't fathom a reason for me to own a machine gun. There is no good reason to, IMO. But if the gubment can own and operate one, damn straight I wouldn't mind having one myself.

We lost our freedoms and liberties when the government achieved the access to items/weapons/etc that we cannot.

Safety vs Freedom. I choose Freedom.

Originally Posted by: Formo 

Yeah. Me too. I don't know the monster's name, either. Don't know what he looks like. Don't care. I refuse to feed into the media hype machine and pointlessly watch this crap.

Yup. I'm unplugged. It's better this way.

Originally Posted by: Formo 

On a serious note, I certainly hope there's a limit on this kind of reasoning. I don't feel the need to have nukes just because the government does. I'd love to have a fighter jet and a private airfield though :)

Originally Posted by: Porforis 

That whole argument comes from lunacy. Are the right wing uneducateds so paranoid that they think they have the right to own every weapon the government has to defend themselves against the government? You guys have any idea how crazy that sounds?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

Yes, which is why basically nobody makes that argument. You can do a pretty damn good job of making the far right look crazy without distorting what they're saying in an attempt to make your point. Can you find any quotes where someone is seriously proposing that they should have the right to own a completely operational and armed tank, cruise missiles, fighter aircraft with weapons systems and weapons intact, naval vessels with either cannons or siles? Or when people make arguments like this, are they talking exclusively about firearms?

Originally Posted by: Porforis 

On a serious note, I certainly hope there's a limit on this kind of reasoning. I don't feel the need to have nukes just because the government does. I'd love to have a fighter jet and a private airfield though :)

Originally Posted by: Porforis 

Yet you vote for the party that enslaves you?

Hey, I'm all for shutting down the war machine. I want to watch Billy Jim Bob and the redneck boys take on the Delta Force - they should make that reality tv.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

That whole argument comes from lunacy. Are the right wing uneducateds so paranoid that they think they have the right to own every weapon the government has to defend themselves against the government? You guys have any idea how crazy that sounds?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

Well why stop at a machine gun?. Like Formo said, he wants what the government has, because he has rights and freedoms to protect. We should all carry around artillery so that we can defend ourselves from our government that want to take all our rights. I wish this election would have gone on for another year so we could have aired out all the craziness in this country through the media. These ideas have been proliferated by the NRA and white supremecy groups for decades, and I live among thse crazy bastards. Montanabob and I live in an area of the country that is full of right wing radicals.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

Who knows if they think that. But I don't trust this government to keep my ass safe, that's for sure. I'mma go about my bidness as if only I can take care of me and my own. Any thing additional is bonus. Unless it's Uncle Sam. In which case, he can take a flying leap.

Originally Posted by: Formo