Greg C.
14 years ago

Since when did playing in a dome become a "huge" advantage for a QB? Oh, I know: Since this year, when the top three QB's all happen to play in domes. If that's ever happened before, I don't remember it. I'd say that a dome gives a slight advantage to a QB, stat-wise, but it's a minor factor.

How many of the great QB's in recent years have played in domes? Manning is the only one I can think of. Once you get past him, you've got Brady, Favre, Elway, Steve Young, Aikman, Marino, Montana...all outdoor guys, and a few of them played in cold weather cities.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Playing with no wind, the same 70 temperature is not an advantage to rain, snow, wind, differing temperatures?

Aaron Rodgers said a week ago that he'd "rather 75 every game, as a Quarterback you like the consistency."

To answer your question of 'Since when did playing in a dome become a "huge" advantage for a QB?' and then you said, oh this year. That's wrong. Very wrong. I've said this about football for years. I think the first time I started griping about the advantages of dome play came when I was 12 and played a game of street ball in rainy muddy grass field across the street from Lutheran Church on St Agnes Drive. After playing in that for a few hours, I was sold, to me, that was football, that's how it should be played. Playing the game on carpet, or a controlled climate, to me, gives the teams an advantage.

Would Brees, Peyton or any other dome playing QB have worse stats if they did not play in a dome? At this point and time, I'd say unlikely. The only difference in their stats would be felt in the final quarter of the season.

But no one should be implying that NOT having to play with wind, rain, sleet, snow, etc is NOT an advantage over having to. Especially for a Quarterback and you could throw in Punters and Kickers too.

"Greg C." wrote:



Playing in a dome is a huge advantage for kickers, there's no doubt about that. That's because kickers just have to kick the ball. QB's have to complete passes against defenders who are also enjoying the benefits of climate control, so the benefits to the QB are largely cancelled out. Yes, games in domes tend to be more offense-oriented, but as I said, it's a relatively minor factor.

The fact that QB's generally like to play in perfect conditions doesn't mean a whole lot. Defensive backs and pass rushers would mostly say the same thing.

Look, we have one of the best QB's in the league. But there are still a handful of other QB's who are better than him right now. There's no need to discredit their accomplishments. Our guy is catching up to them pretty fast anyway.
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WhiskeySam
14 years ago

It was carpet that destroyed Favre, not the dome.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Favre's career numbers Yahoo :

Outdoors
85.8 rating, 61.2 completion %, 1.58 TD:INT

Indoors
94.2 rating, 65.0 completion %, 1.9 TD:INT

Grass
87.0 rating, 61.2 completion %, 1.69 TD:INT

Turf
88.4 rating, 63.5 completion %, 1.53 TD:INT

Super Bowl XXXI (dome)
107.9 rating, 51.9 completion %, Undefined TD:INT (based on 2 TDs, 0 INTs)

Super Bowl XXXII (outdoors)
91.0 rating, 59.5 completion %, 3.0 TD:INT

Higher rating, higher completions, higher ratio of TDs to INTs indoors. Nearly the same grass/turf splits although he has a better TD:INT ratio on grass than on turf. Are we sure he struggles in domes, or is it more that they just couldn't beat Minnesota on the road for years?
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