Formo
14 years ago

I have a bad feeling that if there is in fact a judgement day, the caucasion race is not going to fare to well. Pointing fingers back and forth right now, quite frankly, is stupid. Europe and America are both guilty of imperialism, genocide, slavery, usury, pollution, and just about every shitty thing possible.

The caucasion race living now might not be guilty themselves of these things, but we most certainly are the beneficiaries from the spoils. Tread lightly in this fingerpointing exercise.

"DakotaT" wrote:



We're all guilty though. Pol Pot and Mao are just as bloody as Hitler and Stalin. Let's not forget folks like Idi Amin.

This is the basic problem - man has become so dominant of a species that his only fear is other men. The world is currently overpopulated. As long as we have people fighting for resources, we will continue to have war and genocide and fighting in the name of religion. That's reality.

"zombieslayer" wrote:




I'm just saying that America likes to play holier than thou and we really don't have the right. Many, many skeletons in our closet.

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Are they really in our closet?

I'm pretty sure they've all been aired out.
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DakotaT
14 years ago


Are they really in our closet?

I'm pretty sure they've all been aired out.

"Formo" wrote:



I live about 40 miles from Sitting Bull's decendents and I think that's a topic that needs to re-aired out. Buffalo checks and infinity welfare doesn't make up for what they gave up or had taken from them.
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Formo
14 years ago


Are they really in our closet?

I'm pretty sure they've all been aired out.

"DakotaT" wrote:



I live about 40 miles from Sitting Bull's decendents and I think that's a topic that needs to re-aired out. Buffalo checks and infinity welfare doesn't make up for what they gave up or had taken from them.

"Formo" wrote:



I hear you about the Native American thing.. I don't think it needs to be re-aired out though.

Question.. I can't decipher your last paragraph.. Are you siding that they need more from the government, or less?
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DakotaT
14 years ago


Are they really in our closet?

I'm pretty sure they've all been aired out.

"Formo" wrote:



I live about 40 miles from Sitting Bull's decendents and I think that's a topic that needs to re-aired out. Buffalo checks and infinity welfare doesn't make up for what they gave up or had taken from them.

"DakotaT" wrote:



I hear you about the Native American thing.. I don't think it needs to be re-aired out though.

Question.. I can't decipher your last paragraph.. Are you siding that they need more from the government, or less?

"Formo" wrote:




Well let's see, they were almost eliminated from the face of the earth, made to live on the shitiest lands in America, their spiritual grounds in the Black Hills stolen because someone found gold. Basically there whold meaning of life taken from them. Where would you begin in reparations?

I don't think you get to say my bad how can fix things for you? Their hatred of the white man is eternal.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago
Oh, fo shizzle they got a beef with America.

I'm just saying that I don't think there's a country on this Earth that doesn't have skeletons in their closet. Look at how Australia treated the Aborigines. Or better yet, their almost complete genocide of the Tasmanians. Look at the tribal wars in Africa, Europeans aside. Look at the tribal wars in South America, Europeans aside.

We all got blood on our hands. I think when ANYONE plays holier than thou, it gets annoying.

History is pretty much one group/tribe/nation/people screwing over the other one. In history, we got a million examples of it.

That said, can't we all just get along? ;)

Back to us and the Indians - best thing we can do is give them their autonomy, once and for all. Instead of reparations, we need to start reconsidering what lands we can start giving back.
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dfosterf
14 years ago

http://www.parl.gc.ca/information/library/PRBpubs/prb0731-e.htm

What exactly do you expect from us? To throw our entire population over to Afghanistan?

Europe, in its entirety, is as big as the US. That includes countrys like Romania, Poland and what not. They can't possibly send you a lot of well equipped soldiers, if any.

I asume most of you don't even know, but there's a big difference between eastern and western Europe. Quite some parts of eastern Europe look more like Africa than the US.

And if we want to go back to past oppression and genocide by Europeans, please remember that you're Europeans, as well, if you go back far enough. At least, most of you. Yeah, you're right, you don't want to get judged by that. I'd like not to get judged by my 17th century ancestors who pillaged the world. Or the pre-war government who sent the KNIL to Indonesia or put down any rebellions.

I can make ridiculous statements like that. We've all people of all kinds of ethnecies living over here for ages. We where one of the countries open to jews centuries ago, and one of the most free places on earth.

The southern states, on the other hand, where hanging african americans because of their skin color just 60 years ago. Does that mean that you can't make any kind of judgement about racism? That you should just let it happen and roll with it?

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Fired the Rock. This I like, lol
Packers_Finland
14 years ago
Ahh... so lucky to live in a country that's not being even mentioned in this unescapeably negative discussion.
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14 years ago

Ahh... so lucky to live in a country that's not being even mentioned in this unescapeably negative discussion.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:




Says the descendant of the Viking who raped and pillaged many a village.
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14 years ago

Ahh... so lucky to live in a country that's not being even mentioned in this unescapeably negative discussion.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



Well, look at what you guys did to those poor, defenseless Russians. Oh wait, that's the other way around.

Never mind.
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dfosterf
14 years ago

Ahh... so lucky to live in a country that's not being even mentioned in this unescapeably negative discussion.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



Nothing negative. Go talk to your own troops that defend your country, They are warriors. They will die for you. Most of the time, they are disgusted with how their respective government rolls, and most of the time, they are disgusted with how their fellow citizens roll.

I guess there is some negative in there, after all, sorry. lol

I dig on my fellow European warriors, their Governments usually infuriate both them and I. This is what I am trying to say. ( I gotta leave my own fellow citizens out of this one...one continent at a time, we always say, lol)
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