Zero2Cool
15 years ago
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Though we've been very critical of Browns coach Eric Mangini, we were inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt on the question of whether he parked quarterback Brady Quinn on the bench in order to ensure that Quinn doesn't unlock $10.9 million in 2010 and 2011 salary escalators by taking 70 percent of the snaps on offense this season.

We were inclined to give Mangini the benefit of the doubt, even though he clung to Derek Anderson and his single-digit completion performances until it became mathematically impossible for Quinn to hit the trigger.

But in a lengthy interview with Clark Judge of CBSSports.com, Mangini offered up a suggestion so outlandish that we believe Mangini is trying too hard to cover up the reality that Mangini kept Quinn on the bench because it will be much easier to trade Quinn after the season if he hasn't triggered those future salary obligations.

Judge asked Mangini about the possibility that Quinn was benched due to the escalator clause. And here's what Mangini said.

"No, absolutely not. With all the different contracts. . . . I don't know what the incentives are. But that wouldn't make my decision [even if I did]."

There's no good way out of this one for Mangini. He's lying, or he's incompetent.

Either way, it's a dangerous strategy for a guy working for an owner who's looking for any way to fire people who need to go without having to pay the balance of his contract.



Okay after this. Anyone who said Quinn's not playing due to his contract escalators, I apologize, I am now flipping my opinion.

I apparently need to understand the Browns are not your typical NFL franchise on how they operate.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago
Man, is that a dumb comment or what?

Like the article states, there's no good way out of this one. I'm afraid that the man just isn't HC material.

Stupid comments, lacking results and making the Browns a rebuild of a struggling New York franchise (Yeah, bring in some more NYJ guys that got you fired in the first place)....

He'll be gone next year.
PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago
I actually wouldn't doubt that Mangini doesn't know the contract details. He isn't the guy that worked them out, and he isn't in charge of their cap. He is just the HC.

I believe it was Packers management that talked about McCarthy not knowing the contract details when Green ended up short of his second escalator last year. It is done precisely for this reason. If the coach doesn't know, he won't be making decisions based on salary.
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IronMan
15 years ago

It is done precisely for this reason. If the coach doesn't know, he won't be making decisions based on salary.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



Agreed. +1.
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